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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2003 7:38:19 am PST #3573 of 10001
Up with the sun

I'm fine with threads on any TV show that have sufficient fannage here. But I'm with Angus -- thread sprawl is fine by me.

But if we're having an Alias or general TV thread, could we also add a movies/Foamies thread? Could we put all of the thread suggestions to an (offsite) vote?


Anne W. - Jan 27, 2003 7:40:28 am PST #3574 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I do think if we're going to seriously consider adding new threads, we should probably go with the offsite vote as Lyra Jane suggested. It would be a good idea to toss around the pros and cons for a while, then set a date for the vote. The vote (and probably the discussion) should probably be announced in Press as well.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jan 27, 2003 8:32:42 am PST #3575 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I vote yes for off-site voting.


DavidS - Jan 27, 2003 8:41:33 am PST #3576 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How about one TV thread for all shows that don't already have a dedicated thread?

Heh. I almost proposed this very thing last night, but erased my message before posting because I knew it would open the whole thread proliferation / Natter dilution subject again. But I am not against thread proliferation either. I suspect that it might be better to try to establish some natural brakes on thread making than try to oppose it straight up. Something like a vote with a greater than simple majority to pass. Say, you needed a 70% vote to establish a new thread so that the need or desire for it should be clear, obvious and strong.


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2003 8:43:04 am PST #3577 of 10001
Up with the sun

Say, you needed a 70% vote to establish a new thread so that the need or desire for it should be clear, obvious and strong.

Disagree. You're never gonna get 70% on anything, unless it's the "Puppies are Cute" resolution (and even then, you have dog-allergic people, and kitten partisans, and you'd probably have to go to a recount.) A simple majority is clearer.


Jessica - Jan 27, 2003 8:43:14 am PST #3578 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Say, you needed a 70% vote to establish a new thread so that the need or desire for it should be clear, obvious and strong.

70% of what? We've got almost 750 posters here now. Or do you just mean a 7:3 yes:no ratio?


Allyson - Jan 27, 2003 8:43:31 am PST #3579 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

There's a possibility that BtVS and Angel won't return. I like Cindy's idea, or at least an Alias thread.


Susan W. - Jan 27, 2003 9:32:45 am PST #3580 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'm with the minority who don't really have a problem with thread proliferation in any case, but I also think that the sheer volume in Natter these days makes it really difficult to have a sustained, focused conversation there about anything. Not that I don't still enjoy Natter, but it's difficult to have a discussion there unless you happen to be on at the same time as other people who want to discuss the same thing.

I think this is an important point. Lately, Natter has seemed, for lack of better words, more chatty and less discuss-y lately.


Jesse - Jan 27, 2003 9:34:27 am PST #3581 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I wonder if we couldn't consolidate some of the non-Jossverse TV oriented threads, anyway. Granted, I don't participate in them, but they seem to be relatively slow-moving, so I wonder if there's a need for both Clex and PPO. Or could all the fanfiction workshopping go into one thread, and all the non-Jossverse TV talk go into one thread?

Just a couple of thoughts.


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2003 9:45:29 am PST #3582 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Any show that's aired anywhere in the world would be fair game and not require white font.

Yikes. See, there's a thread I won't go into, although it'd seem I were target audience.

a convoluted plot that bears much discussion

Not any more. They promised.

I also think that the sheer volume in Natter these days makes it really difficult to have a sustained, focused conversation there about anything.

It's because it's natter. Maybe we need a "sustained, focused conversation" thread instead. But one per topic people want to have a sustained, focused conversation on? I can't see it working.