John H, you're not the only one with suspicions. I am reserving the right to be suspicious. Way too many coincidences for my taste.

edited to add: not that this cries for action, just that that is the way that I feel.

The thing that gets me is that he's been asked, more than once, to confirm or deny, and he's never replied. But of course, we don't know if he's read the post.

John, why don't you send an e-mail?

Schmoker is going out of his way to play by our rules, at present. I'm very much for the sleeping puppies rule as long as that's the case.

I COMMed it because it made me laugh fairly early in the morning. At this time of day, I'd say it also is (to me) a good humored acknowledgement of the growing pains we all had last week, and am with Beverly on the sleeping puppies, regardless of my opinion on the identity issue.

On edit, I see it wasn't that early - but it felt early.

Yeah - let me put it this way. If someone was banned and back in other identity, it is disrespectful, blah blah blah wrong like a thing that is wrong cakes (Buffista in-group jargon in case someone new is reading this post).

But at the same time even if someone does that and comes back and stays within the rules - then the banning has served its purpose. Dialog remains within the rules. Not that we should let anyone get away with it if we can prove it. Not that it should be encouraged. But if a banned person comes back under a new identity, and show Buffista courtesy (our definition), then it is not a great tragedy. Even thouugh they are being secretly rude. Even though they are getting away with something. And if anyone can figure out a technical way to keep banned people from re-registering under a new identity, great.

And yeah, banned people re-registering and not showing courtesy is another problem and one that will pop-up. And we will eventually get a non-mutant troll - one who shows up, is immediately rude, ignores warnings, is immediately banned, re-registers immediately, is immediately rude, is immediately banned - rinse, lather and repeat. And I don't know what the hell we do when that happens. And I'm a lot more worried about that then the possiblity that someone who currently is obeying our rules is a secret identity for someone who didn't.

And we will eventually get a non-mutant troll - one who shows up, is immediately rude, ignores warnings, is immediately banned, re-registers immediately, is immediately rude, is immediately banned - rinse, lather and repeat. And I don't know what the hell we do when that happens. And I'm a lot more worried about that then the possiblity that someone who currently is obeying our rules is a secret identity for someone who didn't.

I'm not especially worried about that. It's a hell of a lot easier to stand over Dracula and say "Standing RIGHT HERE" than it is to say "Damn, Faith's behaving, but she's fucked me over before."

Both emotionally, and from the unofficial standpoint of this stompy.

Point Plei - but unless we give up innocent until proven guilty I don't know what we can do about it.

Point Plei - but unless we give up innocent until proven guilty I don't know what we can do about it.

Oh, I wasn't saying we *should* do anything about it, just that I'd much rather face a million "Hulk Smash! Grr! Tarakiller!" trolls than any other variety.

Tarakiller!

I had to look at this over and over, because, coming from you, it looks like "Talisker."

Also, if trolls register, get stomped, re-register, and come back, we just keep stomping. That's all we can do.

I know that folks have strong feelings about this, but there have already been hundreds upon hundreds of posts on the issue. Can we please move on? I'm not speaking as a stompy; I just feel like we keep repeating ourselves.