now I'm learning that some people think of it as betrayal.
I'm getting the sense that not everyone was immediately on the same page you were, and that seems to be correcting.
Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.
Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'
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victor infante - Jan 20, 2003 3:22:48 pm PST #3345 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
askye - Jan 20, 2003 3:23:13 pm PST #3346 of 10001
Thrive to spite them
Hmm. Perhaps I'm all Allyson and stuff, but I never felt all "one of us! one of us!". I don't think we ever were, though there might have been a pretense put up.
I'm not saying we threw a ticker tape parade everytime a new person came along but it seemed that we were much more accepting of new comers and more likely to see them as a positive addition rather than people to be wary of.
Miracleman - Jan 20, 2003 3:23:42 pm PST #3347 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Backchannel is probably happening RIGHT NOW...
§ ita § - Jan 20, 2003 3:24:13 pm PST #3348 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
we were much more accepting of new comers and more likely to see them as a positive addition rather than people to be wary of.
Hmm. I never saw it that way, but I could just be looking at it through me-coloured glasses.
edit: the shift, I mean. It takes much longer for people to get to know people if there are so many more people, and so many more new ones. That shift I see.
P.M. Marc - Jan 20, 2003 3:24:49 pm PST #3349 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Backchannel is probably happening RIGHT NOW...
AIFG?
Take it to email, however, is a good thing in general. I'm all for it.
Steph L. - Jan 20, 2003 3:24:52 pm PST #3350 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
we were much more accepting of new comers and more likely to see them as a positive addition rather than people to be wary of.
I am not now, nor have I ever been, wary of newcomers. I have ALWAYS thought there is a normal learning curve.
victor infante - Jan 20, 2003 3:25:04 pm PST #3351 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Backchannel is probably happening RIGHT NOW...
I'd almost guarantee it.
Jesse - Jan 20, 2003 3:25:45 pm PST #3352 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Yeah, I don't think "One of us!" has ever happened immediately with a new poster, unless their inaugural post was a masterpiece of snarky, pendantic analysis.
(Not to be Little Miss Obvious, but the back-channeling was going on before anyone admitted it, and would have continued to go on even if no one had brought it up. So nothing's changed here.)
Dude! We've broken the First Rule of Backchannel!
victor infante - Jan 20, 2003 3:26:31 pm PST #3353 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Dude! We've broken the First Rule of Backchannel!
BWAH.
Michele T. - Jan 20, 2003 3:27:45 pm PST #3354 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly exactly.
I had a situation recently where someone didn't respect this rule, and went to Other Person with the stuff I was venting about, and it's basically ruined that relationship, because I don't trust this person at all now. And I couldn't quite verbalize why I was telling this person stuff about the Other Person situation in the first place, and Betsy puts it nicely.
There are always gonna be back-channels. When I see Jesse or msbelle, if the board comes up and we talk about what's going on, that's a backchannel. When I talk to amych about my sister's wedding and I tell her about the ridiculous things that the relatives she's met and no one else here has did, if the board comes up, that's a back-channel. Back channels are a normal part of friendships that have an online component, and I've never seen them be detrimental to a virtual community's health except in situations where all the former community "leaders" (most visible posters) stop posting except in back channels. And even then, sometimes, new communities form where the old ones were.