You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one.

Willow ,'Sleeper'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


DavidS - Jan 18, 2003 5:08:23 pm PST #3062 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Do the Bitches have a preferred title?

I don't think it's been discussed yet. I'll broach it over there and maybe we can cut down on the thread-naming chatter over here.


Anathema - Jan 18, 2003 6:06:42 pm PST #3063 of 10001
Jonathan Will Always Be My Hero

Good points, and thanks for them. I tend to be kind of snarky in general, and I know that. And I try hard to just shrug my shoulders if someone gets goofy, and then move on. I have been reading here for quite a while before delurking, so I know the drill. And I have seen people get in flame wars, and it is always to no purpose.

I need to learn to ignore posts sometimes, too. I can be too touchy when I feel a post of mine has been mischaracterized, so I need to sometimes just forget it and not respond at all. I'm a big mouth. So that's hard. I'll learn, tho.

But I still gotta say, the Six People comment was, I believe, totally fair and accurate as a hyperbolic joke on the relative smallness of Buffy's audience. Of any post I have ever made, it may have been the last one I would have believed could have been taken as an insult. So it kind of got my back up.

t Last word and all.

Thanks here for talking me down from it. :)


John H - Jan 18, 2003 6:40:43 pm PST #3064 of 10001

Schmoker, I think the principle I follow is, if anyone says they were offended by what you wrote, apologise.

Apologise, using the words "I'm sorry if what I wrote offended you", even if you think they're being absurdly literal and incredibly oversensitive.

Look at it this way -- there are only two possible situations. Either you wrote what you wrote intending to piss people off, or you didn't.

According to you, you didn't. Which is good, because that kind of thing is against the rules of the board.

So, proceeding on that assumption, here's the situation: you didn't mean to offend, but, bad luck, you accidentally did. So you're sorry, Q.E.D.

You can be sorry with gritted teeth and say under your breath "you absurdly literal, incredibly sensitive person you!" but you really should be sorry. Otherwise this isn't really the right place for you.


Rebecca Lizard - Jan 18, 2003 6:57:35 pm PST #3065 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

(John. AIM? Need to talk.)


Elena - Jan 18, 2003 6:58:42 pm PST #3066 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

I'm pleased to be used as an example of behaviour that might startle new members, Jesse is a WILLOW-LOVING FREAK!! because it does point out that some otherwise startling behaviour is acceptable knowing the poster and knowing the context. But I will reitereate John's post - if you offend, apologise. It seems pretty basic.


Liese S. - Jan 18, 2003 8:16:46 pm PST #3067 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Agreed re: the variable stompiness of stompers (i.e., there isn't any unless it's stated as such).

And furthermore, for the most part stompy feet are generally administrative, and won't necessarily get involved in mediating typical disagreements. [This is, of course, my opinion. Feet please feel free to discuss. Naturally, if something starts heading out of control, we'll do what we need to do to head it off.]

We're all mature here, and I think we can settle our misunderstandings and arguments among ourselves, in the context of the discussion. The best way may often be to say, "Hey, it's getting hotter in here than I meant for it too. Truce?" It's graceful, it's adult (whether or not we, in fact, are adults) and it maintains a positive environment, which is what we all want. Right?


Holli - Jan 18, 2003 9:09:11 pm PST #3068 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

While not technically an adult, I certainly agree with Liese. I'm sure I've made comments that have come off as more Cordelia-esque than intended, and when that happens I definitely want to know so I can avoid it in the future. In a situation where a remark seems to be taken too literally, it's perhaps the tone of the post that offends more than the content. And the tone may be unintentional. So we should be polite. And damn, I had a point somewhere. Where'd it go?


Lyra Jane - Jan 18, 2003 10:51:21 pm PST #3069 of 10001
Up with the sun

Could we have an admin-only ID that would be used to make it clear when someone was acting as a stompy? Not (necessarily, though it wouldn't hurt) for starting threads or whatever, I'm thinking specifically of etiquette warnings.


Rebecca Lizard - Jan 18, 2003 10:56:11 pm PST #3070 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

admin is user id 1.


admin - Jan 18, 2003 10:57:02 pm PST #3071 of 10001
Big Stompy Foot

Could we have an admin-only ID that would be used to make it clear when someone was acting as a stompy?

You mean like this?