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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Fay - Jan 02, 2003 12:45:24 pm PST #2182 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

It's because there are several hundred posts in there every day, so it's easy for specific topics to get lost.

wrod


Tom Scola - Jan 02, 2003 12:46:00 pm PST #2183 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I'm wondering if TTT couldn't morph into a general movie thread.

And Farscape morph into a general non-ME-TV thread.


DXMachina - Jan 02, 2003 12:47:52 pm PST #2184 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

And Farscape morph into a general non-ME-TV thread.

And whither Due South?


Sophia Brooks - Jan 02, 2003 12:47:58 pm PST #2185 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Is it that the people who would know the answers aren't there at that moment and therefore miss the post or is it because only a few people join into the discussion?

To me, the speed of natter has encouraged skipping at skimming. Which is good and allows lots of people to natter. However, when you are skipping and skimming, you basically are only conversing with the buffistas who are there within that particular time frame. When everyone skips and skims, you cannot know who all will see it. If you want to talk about music, you have to sort of save it up until you see Hec or fater or whomever to be around and then ask. If you burst in and ask, you have a good chance of not being seen by someone who knows.


billytea - Jan 02, 2003 12:49:27 pm PST #2186 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I think I've been convinced to vote yes on the music thread. But Apu stays.


Jen - Jan 02, 2003 12:50:06 pm PST #2187 of 10001
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

I think due South and Smallville should stay their own threads because it's very fic-oriented, with lots of slash recs going on, and I know that's not everyone's cup of tea.

Although IMHO Smallville is such crap lately that I'm not sure anyone's using the thread to talk about the show.


Michele T. - Jan 02, 2003 12:53:25 pm PST #2188 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Although IMHO Smallville is such crap lately that I'm not sure anyone's using the thread to talk about the show.

You misspelled "the thread has become inhospitable to actual discussion of the show because of the vocal nature of the 'this season sucks' crowd."


Jon B. - Jan 02, 2003 12:53:33 pm PST #2189 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

But I wonder why it needs to be a vote. In the past people have asked for new threads to address a particular interest (like TTT or Farscape). If enough people were interested to sustain such a thread it was made. It wasn't a majority vote.

There does seem to be more dissent this time around.

I'm abstaining. I'm sure I'd enjoy a music thread and would probably be a useful contributor, but I'm worried that this time-sink will turn into time-black-hole for me. I know that's my issue, which is why I abstain.


DXMachina - Jan 02, 2003 12:53:43 pm PST #2190 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Although IMHO Smallville is such crap lately that I'm not sure anyone's using the thread to talk about the show.

If that's the case, is it time to close that thread? I don't hang out there, but if it's just slash recs and natter at this point, should folks move the recs to Due South, or FanFic?


DavidS - Jan 02, 2003 12:54:12 pm PST #2191 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's moot now in this specific instance, since mieskie/Michael violated his suspension (twice).

But in the future I'm wondering if we want to allow people who are being disciplined to defend themselves in Bureaucracy or have their say. It seems fair (on the one hand) - and yet it is also a kind of invitation to shit storms. I really don't know.

I want the process to be fair so that somebody has a very clear idea of why they're in trouble and what people are objecting to. I'm thinking that maybe even a sampling of this current discussion could be useful to send to somebody who's been given a warning.

So...warning should be in thread and by email. And might include a link to the beginning of the discussion so the offender understands who we as a community have decided our standards.