I'd say the guy has earned his suspension. He has never apologized. He has been warned once. And his last set of post are definitely personal attacks. I know that calling a person's position obtuse is not always the same as calling that person obtuse. But in context, with the tone of everything else this is clearly what is meant. That is a personal attack, and thus not borderline, but a clear violation. All this is my opinion, only - but I would urge the stompy foots to suspend M at this point.

There is no question he violates the spirit of the Buffista rules. And I have argued above, he violates the letter as well.

Okay, well. You all know what my vote is.

I'm gonna go relax and swing.

Boy, did I pick a good time to be gone. (Well, yes, holidays, but nice coincidence.) Hugs, support, and power to the Stompy Feet.

t dashing out again

I'm not a stompy foot, but I think he should be suspsend, he just comes in here and deliberatly pushes buttons, makes insults and treats us like we are stupid.

Wow. Those were the most intentionally rude posts I've ever read.

Do we have a consensus for stomp, then?

Do we have a consensus for stomp, then?

I'm in agreement. I don't know that he's a troll exactly (I think his problem is more the persecution complex of the intellectually conceited), but it doesn't really matter. He's violated community standards, he's been stompy-foot warned, he's continued to offend community members. And, roughly, promised more to come. By the etiquette guide we established, suspension is the mandated action, and I don't see any reason to make an exception.

My posts about mieskie have sounded ambivalent, but I do agree with the reasons people have given for classifying him as a troll, and I think suspending him would be entirely appropriate. His future is on Usenet. I don't think there's any division in our community over this. Any newbie who might object ought to find this discussion convincing. I did.

I hope you don't mind one more newbie speaking up, but I agree with the suspension, and heartily applaud the way you've handled the whole situation. You gave him every chance, but I just don't seem him changing to conform to the community. I think the fact that he even changed his tagline to what is, to me, an offensive Carlin quote, after the Carlin/Kinison comments shows that he's primarily interested in creating conflict, and will only keep trying to do so.

edited, because I wanted to be clearer.

I think it is up to the majority of moderators.

Just a note I've been meaning to make for a while -- more than one person has posted with the assumption that Stompy Feet are like elected officials with a judicial kind of role, that they are some kind of final arbiters, that their vote or their say counts for more than that of others.

Is this the case?

I mean, I'm a stompy, but I figure I'm a stompy because I know a bit about HTML and am available at odd hours because I'm in Australia. I don't consider that I've got the right to decide on action, just the power to take action.

I mean, stompies tend to be people who've been around a while, just because. But I don't think that I've got more power to vote on someone's exclusion or suspension, have I? My opinion doesn't count for more than, say, Rebecca's, who isn't a stompy foot.