That's disturbing. You're emotionally scarred and will end up badly.

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Fay - Dec 27, 2002 7:43:18 am PST #1554 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

mwah!

(Perhaps the email should include a line that indicates, even if your momma named you Timothy J. Minner at birth, on this board, we'd like you to make up a pseud so there's no confusion with the show people.)

You know, I think something like that would be fair enough - just explaining that sometimes people involved with the ME shows do post, and that for simplicity's sake we'd prefer to avoid posters using screen-names that might cause confusion. I can't see myself being upset by that if my name were (eg) Martine Nixon


Angus G - Dec 27, 2002 7:48:01 am PST #1555 of 10001
Roguish Laird

Perhaps a line in the e-mail telling them that if we allowed that username they'd be deluged with posts asking them if they were the real Marti/Tim/Joss, and would they like to have the poster's children? Spin it as a favour to them.


DXMachina - Dec 27, 2002 7:49:22 am PST #1556 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I can't see myself being upset by that if my name were (eg) Martine Nixon

OTOH, imagine the fun if Marnie Nixon (the singer) turned out to be a Buffy fan and tried to register.

Sorry. I'm easily amused sometimes.


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 7:50:00 am PST #1557 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I did notice someone at the Firefly site get a little confused by Amber B, which made me smile.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 27, 2002 7:51:26 am PST #1558 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

So Marni Noxon couldn't post under her real name?

I just read through the whole thing here in bureacracy and I think there is little more to say. To sum up, I think the conclusions reached were to:
1. Suspend the particular poster for 2 months
2. add something somewhere to keep posters from using names that sound too much like ME names
3. Register the ME names premptively and have them available should any of them want to post.

In addition, I think there was a consensus that a little something should be added to the FAQ on etiquette, perhaps the bit by Denise that Hec quoted

Please have respect for our there-when-you-got-there mores. If you offend them without having intended to, we will tell you, politely, as we do and did; then, your path is (I feel) to absolutely take a polite, apologetic tone. If you feel you were warned too hastily, or within a double standard, you absolutely may argue with us; but your basic tone *must* be a polite one. This is our sandbox. You are the newbie. Argue; but you must be brilliant to make us change our minds about something we've already had sixty thousand posts in the Bureaucracy thread about; but, then again, it is possible. Be polite and brilliant. Certainly. Surprise us.
This could almost go in the FAQ.

And also it seems this should be somewhere:

And Kristen's point is also valuable. His lack of responsiveness to being told he was offensive is telling. It's a good Red Flag for all of us to keep in mind when we're looking at these situations.


Sophia Brooks - Dec 27, 2002 7:52:39 am PST #1559 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

OK-- DX and I cross-posted the Marni Noxon joke! I guess we are both easily amused.


DXMachina - Dec 27, 2002 8:07:00 am PST #1560 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Hee, Sophia, and neither of us spelled her name correctly. Just so we're clear, it's Marni Nixon. (I just IMDBed her.)


Sophia Brooks - Dec 27, 2002 8:08:35 am PST #1561 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Shit-- before I knew of Marti I always could spell Marni's name right!


juliana - Dec 27, 2002 8:13:20 am PST #1562 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

before I knew of Marti I always could spell Marni's name right!

That's Marti for ya. Always messin' with yo haid.

Just chiming in with my appreciation of the thoughtfulness and time taken in crafting a response/refining community standards. As we all know, Buffistas rocketh.

Thanks.


Beverly - Dec 27, 2002 8:59:56 am PST #1563 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

This bit Sophia quoted and attributed to Denise:

Please have respect for our there-when-you-got-there mores. If you offend them without having intended to, we will tell you, politely, as we do and did; then, your path is (I feel) to absolutely take a polite, apologetic tone. If you feel you were warned too hastily, or within a double standard, you absolutely may argue with us; but your basic tone *must* be a polite one. This is our sandbox. You are the newbie. Argue; but you must be brilliant to make us change our minds about something we've already had sixty thousand posts in the Bureaucracy thread about; but, then again, it is possible. Be polite and brilliant. Certainly. Surprise us.

is actually Rebecca Lizard.