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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2002 8:11:10 pm PST #1473 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

billytea, my ill-worded point was that of course "offensive" means "offensive to us", since unfortunately etiquette lacks ISO standardisation.

No, it's not something we can quantify. And no, it's not something we can even explain.

Sure Rio and MM and folks got down and downright scurrilous with their language. Most important thing there, I think is that a) givers and receivers were both consenting and b) we didn't have to give the benefit of the doubt -- there was no doubt. While this might be confusing for an onlooker I think there is one very important thing -- when a Buffista expressed discomfort, it was stopped with no rankling. It was born, it lived, it died, on to the next fun thing.

As for censoring for kids -- I'd rather not. Because there could be dozens of ten year olds reading right now. How much censorship would we impose? How much warning do we have to give? There's porn here, plain and simple. And no method of keeping anyone out.


John H - Dec 26, 2002 8:14:56 pm PST #1474 of 10001

DavidS - Dec 26, 2002 8:15:04 pm PST #1475 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sure Rio and MM and folks got down and downright scurrilous with their language.

Hey! I was just as filthy as they were.


DXMachina - Dec 26, 2002 8:15:37 pm PST #1476 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Sure Rio and MM and folks got down and downright scurrilous with their language. Most important thing there, I think is that a) givers and receivers were both consenting and b) we didn'thave to give the benefit of the doubt -- there was no doubt. While this might be confusing for an onlooker I think there is one very important thing -- when a Buffista expressed discomfort, it was stopped with no rankling. It was born, it lived, it died, on to the next fun thing.

I was just making sure, because I do agree with what you say.


DXMachina - Dec 26, 2002 8:16:49 pm PST #1477 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Hey! I was just as filthy as they were.

One more peep out of you, young man, and you're outta here... :)


DavidS - Dec 26, 2002 8:17:31 pm PST #1478 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One more peep out of you, young man, and you're outta here... :)

peepfuck


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 26, 2002 8:18:42 pm PST #1479 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Reposting my recent post to another thread, as it may be more appropriate here:

I think one of the things that's bothering many of us is attitude toward the community rather than specific content, and as a result is coloring our responses. Heck, I've posted plenty of profane/vitriolic comments myself, and read such from our more... colorful posters without blinking an eye, but in such instances the tone is more along the lines of #@$&! grousing among good friends. You don't go into a new place among new people and expect to immediately be as comfortable and casual as people who've known each other for years (or at least I don't). I'm a lot more accepting of controversial discourse when it's coming from someone who seems to be talking to me rather than at me.


Jesse - Dec 26, 2002 8:19:38 pm PST #1480 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

when a Buffista expressed discomfort, it was stopped with no rankling

I think that's the key: you can tell when something's offensive to the community when a member of the community says it's offensive.


DavidS - Dec 26, 2002 8:21:23 pm PST #1481 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And I'll repeat my response to Matt. Both Consuela and Betsy made perfectly pitched responses that allowed room to back up, apologize and alter tone. That opportunity was not taken up. It was rude and disrespectful in a basic way. Profoundly inconsiderate of the community itself.


esse - Dec 26, 2002 8:50:14 pm PST #1482 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I just read through about a thousand posts to find out what's up with the discussion in here.

The guy is offensive -- and I'm slightly removed from the sitch, because I wasn't following the discussion as it was happening. But he really doesn't seem to comprehend the difference between our style of banter and his outrightly disrespectful comments towards the community and things we enjoy. A number of long time members have warned him, or asked politely for him to be far more careful in how he acts, and he does not seem to have taken those comments into account.

I'm voting for suspension, really, but I think only if he does something again that is blatantly against our rules. Which I honestly don't think will be too long.