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Elena - Mar 12, 2004 12:53:59 pm PST #1196 of 4091
Thanks for all the fish.

Breaking in the new thread with some Spike.

Elena "The Quotable Buffy 3: The Softer Side of Eating Babies in Istanbul" Mar 12, 2004 2:52:59 pm PST


Theodosia - Mar 12, 2004 8:08:17 pm PST #1197 of 4091
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Pictures from the Somerville Wonderfalls gathering, with a vague attempt at funny hip captions by a very tired moi: [link]


Elena - Mar 13, 2004 1:47:36 pm PST #1198 of 4091
Thanks for all the fish.

Bitch Blanket Bingo

Anyone who has not sent or who has not received their Fall Blanket (I know that there are two participants who have yet to receive their Spring Blankets, and I'm on it) should please e-mail me at my profile address.

As for deathmatches, I understand that some find my posting of daily starts problematic, and I'm trying to find a work around. Until then, please bear with me.

Today's match starts here -

Elena "The Quotable Buffy 3: The Softer Side of Eating Babies in Istanbul" Mar 13, 2004 3:44:23 pm PST


Rafmun - Mar 13, 2004 5:43:15 pm PST #1199 of 4091
I'm made of felt and my....hey, who's hand is that?

Allyson - Mar 13, 2004 11:04:58 pm PST #1200 of 4091
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

We're bringing Nilly to LA.

Kristen suggested this last week, so love to her.

Love to Tim for a big ass donation.

We could use a little more.

My Paypal is Allyson@davidfury.net

If you want to contribute to Nilly's airfare, that's where to do it.

I'll shut it down when there's enough, and refund money to folks if it goes above the fare (we still have to work out the ticket).


Allyson - Mar 14, 2004 7:39:47 am PST #1201 of 4091
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't know that this is Pressworthy, but I'm just so honored to know all of you. We're about $300 shy of matching Tim's grand. I think we should be able to get Nilly something in business class (because an international flight from Israel? blows in coach).

Truly am honored to have a really teensy part in making this happen. Someone in another thread said Nilly is the heart of the board, and that's true.

Your generosity sparkles and dances. When fit hits the shan around here, remember this. This sort of connection with the world is what the 'net is for.

Well, and porn.

Now we just need to get in a hella fight about who gets Nilly and for how long, which is a nice fight to have.

We're definately bringing her here.

Thank you.


Typo Boy - Mar 14, 2004 9:55:38 am PST #1202 of 4091
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK -some fairly urgent news, in the sense there is a problem you (if you are a U.S. citizen) can do something about now.

El Salvador is holding elections. Part of the process is to have international observers - whose rights the constitution of El Salvador them to respect.

From Friday onwards international observers have been arrested there. Orginally about four. I've received verbal reports that the latest number is 80-100 arrested. Most of the international observers are U.S. citizens by the way, so these are mostly U.S. citizens who are being arrested. Many of these are not political people, who thought that being an objective election observer would be a nice non-profity way to make a contribution, and learn stuff and see the world.

There is no reason for the right wing conservative government to do this unless they intend to commit massive electoral fraud. Winning this election by massive fraud might well restart the Salvadorean civil war again.

No one believes for a minute the government of El Salvador would do this without at least the tolerance of the U.S. - since El Salvador is dependent upon U.S. Aid, international aid the U.S is in a position to cut off, and international trade the U.S. is in a position to cut off.

So I'm asking anyone who is a U.S. citizen to call the U.S. Embassy in El Salvador:

CISPES's action alert asks:

. Call the U.S. Embassy in El Salvador – over the weekend,call 011-503-234-2316, on weekdays call Annie Pforzheimer,the Counselor for Political Affairs at (011) 503-278-4444x2025 – and: · Demand that the U.S. Embassy call the Salvadoran Ministry of Government (Ministerio de Gobernación) to insist that they allow all international observers into the country. · Insist that the U.S. Embassy pressure the head of the Immigration Department to respect El Salvador’s electoral code which guarantees international observers the right to receive a visa of entry to the country as well as freedom of circulation and mobility. · Express concern for the many detained U.S. citizens and their access to human rights officials and lawyers.

And I would add don't accept "concern" as a brushoff. Emphasize politely that if International Observers are excluded, and human rights are ignored in this election, no one will believe it was done without U.S. permission.

You can learn more about this from [link] Yes they have a strong left-wing bias, but still are a very good source of information, and right now the only source since none of the mainstream media (or even much of the alternative media) has picked it up .

An international phone call is expensive, but this is one of those critical points where public pressure can make a difference - especially from U.S. citizens. (If you are not a U.S. citizen, a phone call still won't hurt shows the world is watching etc... But the sad fact is our government does not care much about world opinion. Because it is an election year, U.S. opinion matters a little to our leaders.)


Allyson - Mar 14, 2004 11:30:54 am PST #1203 of 4091
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

We're at 2600 in the Nilly's Coming to America!Fund.

As Perkins points out, business class will run about 6K, which I think is really a lot.

Should I close out donations? Do more people want to contribute, "just because" and we'll discuss overage possibilities after the ticket is purchased?


Lyra Jane - Mar 14, 2004 11:35:20 am PST #1204 of 4091
Up with the sun

Allyson, will we need additional money for hotels, transit within the U.S., etc.?


Allyson - Mar 14, 2004 11:40:26 am PST #1205 of 4091
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Aiyee, I don't know if this qualifies as Natter, but Nilly's been offered safe harbor staying with people, so that's not going to be an issue.