I see your uhhhhhhhhhhh and raise you a gnyeh.

Buffy ,'Potential'


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Allyson - Oct 31, 2002 7:59:02 pm PST #106 of 4089
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Some of the crazier W/T cultists have decided to teach Joss a lesson by getting Firefly canceled. Their plan is to write letters (the same way we are in support) to advertisers to complain about Firefly. They do have some numbers.

The following is a post at a DarkAngel fanboard from a W/T cultist.

"I've copied this post for those who might have missed it - certainly seems worth a try. Anyone want to design a postcard to Levis pointing our the positives of DA?

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Posted by Web Warlock: The first target is Levi Strauss and Co. makers of Levi Jeans and Dockers. Ok, how will this help? Levi’s has a strong stance on social responsibility. We need to point out to them that we are not watching FireFly (and Buffy, they advertise with both) because of the shows treatment of women and minorities. Examples: On FF we have a woman who is a prostitute and this is considered to be the most honorable profession a woman can be in. We have another woman that began the show being tortured. We have another woman that was given away as a gift. We have a religious man that seems to exsist only as the verbal punching bag of the shows “angry atheist hero”. On Buffy women are also degraded, raped, murdered or beat down on a regular basis. A disproportionate number of minorities are killed (women, lesbians, African Americans, Gays) while white heterosexual males not only rarely die, the ones that do get to come back to life. (as a white heterosexual male I find this very offensive). How can we use this to get Dark Angel back? Point out the positive portrayals (which many of you can do better than me) but off of the top of my head there is a courageous young woman that is fighting for her rights, the male hero of the show is admired for his intellect and the fact that he is wheel-chair bound is only use to show the strength of his character, a positive portrayal of African American gay woman. Not to mention the entire “normals” vs. “freaks” dichotomy of the future can be seen as an portrayal of everyone’s essential rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Tell Levis you are not watching Firefly or Buffy nor will you buy their jeans or other products. However if they were to put the financial backing of their company behind a new series or TV movie for DA you would be more than thrilled to support them with your money. Here is a link to their homepage on "Social Responsibility" [link] WORLDWIDE AND U.S. HEADQUARTERS Levi Strauss & Co. 1155 Battery Street San Francisco, CA 94111 U.S.A. Dan Chew Vice President, Worldwide and U.S. Communications Tel: (415) 501-1380 Jeff Beckman Senior Manager, Worldwide and U.S. Communications Tel: (415) 501-1698 News Media Only: E-mail: newsmediarequests@levi.com LEVI STRAUSS & CO. (CANADA) INC. 1725 16th Avenue Richmond Hill Ontario, Canada L4B 4C6 Caleigh Askew Communications Manager Tel: (905) 763-4340 LEVI STRAUSS EUROPE, MIDDLE EAST & AFRICA HEADQUARTERS Avenue Arnaud Fraiteur 15-23 1050 Brussels, Belgium MAIN EUROPEAN PRESS OFFICE Paola Brandi Press Officer Tel: (32).2.641.6580 Fax: (32).2.641.6636 E-mail: europe.press.office@levi.com I am getting the Willow and Tara fans onboard with this. They will also support a DA movie or TV series. We have lost Tara forever, we know that, but we will continue this fight because some things are more important than winning. Warlock Logged ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check it out!! Star24 Administrator member is online

"Now look what you've done." Logan

Posts: 1935 Re: Letters to Levis « Reply #1 on: Today at 7:25pm » ------------------------------------------------------------------------ And here's a link to Firefly's advertisers from Web Warlock. Write and let them know how negatively their sponsorship of FF is perceived by the thousands od DA fans.

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Posted by Web Warlock: Awful damn nice of those FF fans. To provide us a link of all their advertisers. [link] You know what to do. Warlock

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And what follows is a list of sponsors.


John H - Oct 31, 2002 11:03:25 pm PST #107 of 4089

DavidS - Oct 31, 2002 11:06:55 pm PST #108 of 4089
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Jen - Nov 01, 2002 9:09:07 am PST #109 of 4089
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

brenda m - Nov 01, 2002 2:09:27 pm PST #110 of 4089
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

F2F date poll

OK, folks, let's try to get this nailed down so the serious planning can begin!

Results


Kate P. - Nov 04, 2002 10:46:52 am PST #111 of 4089
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

SF Buffistas!

I'm coming to San Francisco for two weeks this spring, and I want to meet you all. I'll be in town from Sunday, April 20 to Sunday, May 4. (OK, I know this is a long way off, but I just got my tickets, and I'm excited!) I've got couch space with a friend already, but I would love to be shown around the city by any and all of you.

Aussie Buffistas!

I'll be looking for people to stay with while I journey through your fair land in March and April. If you think you'll be able to host me, please email me (profile address is good) and let me know. My plans are exceedingly flexible; I arrive in Perth in January and I'll stay with a friend there through February, and then I'll travel wherever I can until I fly out of Sydney on April 20. Whee!


msbelle - Nov 04, 2002 12:47:19 pm PST #112 of 4089
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Just a friendly reminder: Get offa yer ass and get in the Holiday Spirit!

The Slacker Secret Buffistas Holiday Exchange deadline is Wednesday. Get your name, mailing info and any special gift requiremnets (no sugar, vegan) in by (Nov. 6). I will email out matches on Friday.

My email is: (deleted)


brenda m - Nov 04, 2002 1:51:24 pm PST #113 of 4089
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Speaking of getting off our asses:

We're this close to settling on a date for the F2F. If you haven't voted yet, and you have strong feelings one way or another, what are you waiting for? We're closing the poll at midnight tonight (eastern). Think of it as practice for tomorrow.

F2F date poll

Results


Laura - Nov 04, 2002 2:20:01 pm PST #114 of 4089
Our wings are not tired.

Informal LA F2F Registration Form

We will have a real date tomorrow so it's time to get some registration info accumulated. The form is intended to gather information for number and types of rooms needed, contact info and matching roommates. That kind of thing.

Please put stuff in the comments field about suggested links and so forth since this is a work-in-progress. As I mentioned in the F2F thread feel free to mock my form or offer suggestions because it was chopped together quickly.

Filling the form is not a commitment to attend, but a start at getting numbers for planners to use to scope out hotels and such. Yay!


brenda m - Nov 04, 2002 11:15:11 pm PST #115 of 4089
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The votes are in and the 2nd Annual Buffista F2F will be held in LA on the weekend of May 30 - June 1!