Cindy, I'm actually quoted in the FAQ for the codification of "foamy", and my reasons for loving the writing in BB are all in there.
That's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full.
Giles ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Buffista Fic: It Could Be Plot Bunnies
Where the Buffistas let their fanfic creative juices flow. May contain erotica.
deborah grabien - Sep 16, 2003 7:13:33 am PDT #6607 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Cindy - Sep 16, 2003 7:16:11 am PDT #6608 of 10001
Nobody
deb--I read that so long ago, I'd forgotten who said what.
Whee!
Deborah Grabien - B.2.2931: "Maybe it's a girl thing, but watching her deck Parker not once but twice, watching her sniff Xander (boy smells...good), watching the lovely subtle way Joss brought it home to us that the slayer skills are atavistic, not learned, watching all their tilted heads as they stared down at decked-for-the-second-time Parker, the fact that most of this season's iconic quips in our household came from that episode (well, also from PANGS)...all in all, BEER BAD made this cave-slayer, well...FOAMY."
Second? Oo! We have a pattern. Someday the OED can blame Tracey Forbes and Deborah Grabien.
Deborah Grabien - B.2.3028: "Daniel D-L in buckskins in MOHICANS...foamy. No, wait, ME foamy..."
deborah grabien - Sep 16, 2003 7:21:58 am PDT #6609 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Heh. Yup.
Foooooooooaaaaamy.
It really was a beautifully written episode, but also a brilliantly acted one. Joss gave it the full atavism take (actually, did Joss write that one? The knife-edged comedy in there smells Whedonesque or maybe Jane-ish), and the cast ran with it; ATH and NB, in my mind, turned in two of their better days on that one. ATH, especially, did the frazzled exasperated thing with just the right undercurrent of "UH-oh" running with it.
§ ita § - Sep 16, 2003 8:01:28 am PDT #6610 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Hrmm. Hate Beer Bad. Didn't think I did, but then I rewatched it and realised I'd dressed up all the best moments in more splendid clothes than they wore onscreen.
Which left nowt in it for me. It's my second least liked ep, just above BvsD.
deborah grabien - Sep 16, 2003 8:08:50 am PDT #6611 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
I think BB may be a writers' episode; reading it (the written word, literally, as opposed to the interpretation) left me nodding and going, yup. Showed this, and this, and this, revealed this about the character with two or three short lines and a lot of intelligence, yup, yup....
Whereas looking at the script for OMWF? Honestly, it's perfect or close to it, but it's really a libretto, or at least it reads that way to me. I can't read it as a writer's script; it's a musician's script.
shrift - Sep 16, 2003 8:14:34 am PDT #6612 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
I like Beer Bad.
Also, Plei has killed me with her Wesley drabbles. I am a puddle of lovesPlei'sWesleysoverymuch goo on the floor.
Cindy - Sep 16, 2003 8:34:57 am PDT #6613 of 10001
Nobody
(actually, did Joss write that one? The knife-edged comedy in there smells Whedonesque or maybe Jane-ish)
I think it was written by Tracy Forbes (who--I think--didn't last long, but I think that's the Tracy Forbes mentioned in your FAQ entry).
Cindy - Sep 16, 2003 8:37:31 am PDT #6614 of 10001
Nobody
correction...
Tracey Forbes (I missed her(?) e) before. She wrote:
4.05 Beer Bad
4.09 Something Blue
4.18 Where the Wild Things Are
At least, she's credited with writing those. In season 4, Joss was still doing a lot of rewrites, I think. Let's pretend he was in a diabetic coma for WtWTA.
deborah grabien - Sep 16, 2003 8:42:52 am PDT #6615 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Tracey had a taste for sharp-edged slapstick, it seems.
erikaj - Sep 16, 2003 9:42:06 am PDT #6616 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
OK, I'll cool it with the self-promotion for a while after this, but I know this crowd loves a Girl Power moment. This one is harsher than Joss', though. More Kay and Joyce bonding, cause I never thought Joyce had enough friends. [link] OK, looking at what I ended up with, if they touched a little more, it could be femslash. Which is ok, but kind of unintended by me.