Nothin'. I just wanted you to face me so she could get behind ya.

Mal ,'The Train Job'


Buffista Fic: It Could Be Plot Bunnies  

Where the Buffistas let their fanfic creative juices flow. May contain erotica.


esse - Jun 13, 2003 9:08:35 am PDT #4148 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

And that's great first person writing.

Yeah. It doesn't seem to bother as much in original fiction, though I don't read nearly as much as I once did.

SA, you know how you feel about first person? I am that way 99% of the time about present tense. I define good present tense writing by one criterion only: if I notice it's present tense, I'm outta there.

Mm. I love present tense. But I know exactly how you feel--I was reading something short, not five minutes ago, and just a drabble--no more than a hundred words. I saw "I" and backspaced so quickly you'd have thought my head was spinning.


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2003 9:08:45 am PDT #4149 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Most of my drabbles want to be present tense. I have no idea why.

2nd person POV works better for me in the present tense too ... it adds more immediacy to the being led around sensation, and I feel a bit less like second-guessing.

Still not generally a fan, though.


Susan W. - Jun 13, 2003 9:15:06 am PDT #4150 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

SA, you know how you feel about first person? I am that way 99% of the time about present tense. I define good present tense writing by one criterion only: if I notice it's present tense, I'm outta there.

deb is me.

Present tense and second person I can only deal with in small chunks--in a short story or fanfic, they can add a nice sense of urgency and immediacy. For long sweeping narratives, I much prefer traditional past tense and 1st or 3rd person POV.

I have no preference between 1st or 3rd person. It entirely depends on the type of story and what the author is comfortable with. My novel is in first, and I enjoy it because my narrator's head is fun to inhabit, and because I like the challenge of a fundamentally honest narrator who's unreliable because of her own immaturity and blind spots. The fanfic I just started is 3rd limited, multiple POV, because if I actually follow through on it, there's way too much going on for just one character to witness and narrate.


P.M. Marc - Jun 13, 2003 9:17:32 am PDT #4151 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm a big ho for all tenses, POVs, etc.

I'm trying to think of any I haven't enjoyed, and coming up short.


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2003 9:18:08 am PDT #4152 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

3rd person plural, pluperfect.


deborah grabien - Jun 13, 2003 9:19:54 am PDT #4153 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Susan, yes indeed. Lucy, your main character, has a very distinctive voice, and I love that you let her talk instead of pulling her around. She also has a very distinct way of looking at her world, and you show me that, as well. I'm all about that.

ita, SA, I ought to qualify: very short pieces, the drabbles and whatnot? A lot of them do work very well in the present tense. But in straight fiction longer forms, I hate it with a stone passion. I find myself assuming that the writer can only last two minutes in bed before he/she runs out of breath....


P.M. Marc - Jun 13, 2003 9:22:10 am PDT #4154 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

3rd person plural, pluperfect.

I almost want to dare someone to try this.

But, I see what you're saying.

"They had had sex. It had been very good for them."


deborah grabien - Jun 13, 2003 9:25:16 am PDT #4155 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

"They had had sex. It had been very good for them."

That unpleasant squishy thing you all just heard was the sound of my head exploding.


esse - Jun 13, 2003 9:37:58 am PDT #4156 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

t snerk I wonder if anyone could feasibly write in the pluperfect tense.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 13, 2003 9:41:19 am PDT #4157 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I wonder if anyone could feasibly write in the pluperfect tense.

I'm looking it up right now...

What? I need a challenge.