I like books. I just don't want to take on too much. Do they have an introduction to the modern blurb?

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Buffista Fic: It Could Be Plot Bunnies  

Where the Buffistas let their fanfic creative juices flow. May contain erotica.


amych - Jun 13, 2003 5:47:27 am PDT #4117 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

For me, it's not ordering. It's experiencing.

I find just the opposite -- which is why this may come down to a different strokes thing. I'm used to people saying to me, "I did this." It's a normal conversational mode; when I run into it in narrative, I can hear it as that person telling me their story.

If someone says to me "you did this," my immediate instinct is to say, "who the fuck are you to tell me my own experiences? Step off!" It's not what I've experienced -- it's what I'm being told I should experience. So, yeah, it reads like an order. Or like a huge stinkin' presumption. Either way, the story has to be damned good to get around the severe hackles-raised reaction.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 13, 2003 5:48:15 am PDT #4118 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

For me, it's not ordering. It's experiencing.

To me, it sounds like ordering (edit: or, like amych just said, a huge presumption). I have a much easier time experiencing if it's 'I' statements than if it's 'you' statements.

I have no idea why this is, and I think my analysis button is broken.


esse - Jun 13, 2003 5:53:31 am PDT #4119 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I have no idea why this is,

Insctinctive, probably. Different perceptions, stokes, all that. To be honest, there isn't a lot of second person I will read. People bungle it up all the time. But a good example is Elena's new fic. I think to really use it well, it's gotta be poetic. It's gotta have a rhythm, otherwise it's Choose Your Own Adventure without the Choose Your Own. Another example (selfpimp ahoy) is Rise, which is that Faith-centric remix fic I wrote a coulpa weeks ago. There's a style there that weaves itself in with second person, makes it good.


Dana - Jun 13, 2003 5:56:21 am PDT #4120 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

melymbrosia writes excellent second person. So does Suela.


Deena - Jun 13, 2003 5:56:29 am PDT #4121 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I love good first person and limited 3rd. Omniscient, I've read it too many times where it broke down and the omniscience was missing when the author didn't want you to know something. I find, when a second-person story is done well, that it feels like I'm a ghost in the head of the main character, or like I'm sitting listening to an intriguing story told by an unsophisticated person. I can't remember the fic I read that used it so well but it was Farscape, linked from the Phoenix, and I'm sure someone here knows. It had been a long time since I'd read second person done well, so I was especially impressed by it.


Cindy - Jun 13, 2003 5:58:29 am PDT #4122 of 10001
Nobody

I don't even know if I've read second person. The concept itself is confusing me.

ita - I agree that 3rd person omniscient is easiest, but sometimes I run into telling too much, rather than showing when I use it. My characters are always talky!meat as it is. But then the narrator becomes the talkiest meat of all talky meats. I'm hoping that for this story, the first person might help me limit exposition to when it's needed. It's not that fp is easier per se, but the device serves as a constant reminder.

Third person omnisonedayIwilllearntospellthisent

Here's how I remember how to spell omniscient. Omni is all and we know the narrator in this person is all knowing. For the knowing part, we have science, conscience... which gives us scient. Omni-sci-ent - omniscient.


Steph L. - Jun 13, 2003 6:06:25 am PDT #4123 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

melymbrosia writes excellent second person. So does Suela.

Holli wrote that wonderful one that was recced all over LJ about a month ago.

And thinking of melymbrosia and Suela, somehow Farscape seems to lend itself well to 2nd person POV.


esse - Jun 13, 2003 6:07:36 am PDT #4124 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

What Elena wrote maybe thirty posts ago is second person.


Dana - Jun 13, 2003 6:11:24 am PDT #4125 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Some second person Buffy fic:

mely's Truly and Forever

Sheila's Light Walks

Holli's Four Ghosts

Some other fandom second person:

Suela's The Money Changer's Tale (Farscape, SPOILERS through Season 3.)

Elizabeth's _________ (Alias)

Elizabeth's You Always Wanted (Roswell)

mely's What Flesh Felt (X-Files)

And because it's Friday, and I am self-indulgent, my In Step (Alias) and Remembering the Gaze (Farscape).


Cindy - Jun 13, 2003 6:16:54 am PDT #4126 of 10001
Nobody

What Elena wrote maybe thirty posts ago is second person.

My post was a delayed cross post. Elena was so successful of making me Joyce (making Spike - whee) that I forgot it was second person.