Zoe: Next time we smuggle stock, let's make it something smaller. Wash: Yeah, we should start dealing in those black-market beagles.

'Safe'


Buffista Fic: It Could Be Plot Bunnies  

Where the Buffistas let their fanfic creative juices flow. May contain erotica.


Deena - Jun 12, 2003 6:38:26 pm PDT #4089 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Oh, Elena, that's wonderful.

eta: I just read Dana's fic. Holy COW that's hot. I couldn't imagine Weiss and hot in the same sentence, but, wow.


Connie Neil - Jun 12, 2003 8:21:06 pm PDT #4090 of 10001
brillig

For those who may not have seen the mention over at PF, I wrote a sequel to "Steam." It's called "Touch", and it's up at my website, [link] and at Shriftweb, [link]

Just, you know, if anyone cares.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 12, 2003 10:07:24 pm PDT #4091 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Mal couldn't "look in" on Kaylee, or well, anyone, because of Serenity's layout. Right? I mean, crew quarters are downship.

Um... as I recall Kaylee's quarters, it would be quite possible to open the door and look through (down) to see where she was. Is that not right? That's what I had in mind when I wrote that.


Beverly - Jun 12, 2003 10:25:03 pm PDT #4092 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

The doors make a loudish audible metallic sound when they open. It would be possible to open it and take a look down/in, but not with any secrecy or appearance of casualness. One would have to have a reason for such intrusion, or look very odd, I'd think. And I've never seen a crew quarters door left open, since the doors are part of the ship's interior corridor.

But this is strictly my own impression, yours may certainly vary.

connie, Touch is voice-perfect and marvelously speculative. If I hadn't already commented in LJ.


esse - Jun 13, 2003 3:54:00 am PDT #4093 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Cindy, please note that this has nothing to do with you.

I really, really hate first person POV. That is probably the first thing that will make me run from a story, even faster than two words misspelled and bad grammar in the first line. I don't know why--just the whole "I" statement thing makes me shudder like I've got a spider crawling up my spine.

I imagine it's the same for people who detest the second person, which I love so very much.


amych - Jun 13, 2003 3:54:57 am PDT #4094 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I imagine it's the same for people who detest the second person, which I love so very much.

Yep, pretty much.


esse - Jun 13, 2003 4:03:55 am PDT #4095 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Ah, irrational dislike, you are such a friend to me.


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2003 4:24:22 am PDT #4096 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wow, SA. That's pretty absolute. Is it instinctual, or can you articulate it?


esse - Jun 13, 2003 4:31:49 am PDT #4097 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

When I was younger, it didn't bother me. But I think it's really fuelled by fanfic.

Hm. Articulation. Okay, what I think it is, is that I want to experience the characters I watch on the television the same way for both screen and page. Other than a few random occourences where the narrative has been changed (in Buffy, for example, when Andrew has his camera, or when we saw Brodie filming the department in HLotS) you have pretty much an overarching sense of third person narrative, often 3p omniscient (sp?) narrative. With that, also, you can put yourself in a character's place and it becomes second person--"you" are doing the action, and someone else is controlling what is happening; it's not a placement of self into first person.

I guess, with regards to fanfic, I see first person as making yourself that character, which makes me run in the opposite direction so fast you'd think I was road runner. And now that I think about it, that reaction is pretty closely confined to fanfiction, because I've enjoyed original novels with first person (the Kushiel trilogy comes to mind); but even then I've always disliked it in general. It seems...unsophisticated. Or something.

Is that coherent?


Am-Chau Yarkona - Jun 13, 2003 4:40:23 am PDT #4098 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I see first person as making yourself that character, which makes me run in the opposite direction so fast you'd think I was road runner.

Um... yes, first person is sort of about making yourself that character. For me, though (I love first person, just so we're clear) that's about understanding them, getting inside their head and knowing what they know, seeing the way they see. Walking in their shoes, if you like.

It seems...unsophisticated. Or something.

It's simple. Direct. Which, really, is 'unsophisticated', only viewed as an advantage.

you can put yourself in a character's place and it becomes second person--"you" are doing the action, and someone else is controlling what is happening; it's not a placement of self into first person.

And there, right there, you've articulated exactly what I hate about second person: someone else is controlling what is happening, the character (in the second person 'you') are not responsible any more. This may be fuelled by having read fanfic (don't ask me where; I lost the link on purpose) that used second person to make it seem like evil characters (Spike, for example) weren't responsible for what they were doing.

t /rant

Sorry, that's an old one.