How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


The Crying of Natter 49  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2007 1:02:15 pm PST #9423 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that a cat knows its alive, it just doesn't waste time thinking about it as much as we do, and asking questions about its meaning.

But it's still aware, and can tell the difference between life and death in other mammals.

I know I'm alive (unless of course I am not), but that's not to say I'd know if I were dead.

I think that if the experimenter got into the box, the eigenstate collapses. If he grabs the nearest schoolgirl and shoves her in without any knowledge of the point of the experiment nor means to communicate with the outside world, I'm going to have to vote for the eigenstate on this one.

However, the fucking tree made fucking noise when it fucking fell. What sort of nonsense question is that.

I don't know.

Correct!

Good, because I wasn't sure.


Polgara - Feb 08, 2007 1:05:04 pm PST #9424 of 10001
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

However, the fucking tree made fucking noise when it fucking fell. What sort of nonsense question is that.

I just choked on my protein bar.


Nilly - Feb 08, 2007 1:06:11 pm PST #9425 of 10001
Swouncing

Polgara!


Polgara - Feb 08, 2007 1:07:31 pm PST #9426 of 10001
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

Hi, Nilly! Long time no "see"!


Gudanov - Feb 08, 2007 1:10:16 pm PST #9427 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Decoherence makes the cat question moot.


Polter-Cow - Feb 08, 2007 1:11:27 pm PST #9428 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ten times the herence!


Sean K - Feb 08, 2007 1:12:10 pm PST #9429 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

However, the fucking tree made fucking noise when it fucking fell. What sort of nonsense question is that.

But do wave-like vibrations in air count as sound if they do not interact with a living creature's auditory receptors?


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2007 1:17:39 pm PST #9430 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wikipedia says:

Decoherence does not provide a mechanism for the actual wave function collapse; rather it provides a mechanism for the appearance of wavefunction collapse.

I just don't know if that contradicts what you said.

But do wave-like vibrations in air count as sound if they do not interact with a living creature's auditory receptors?

First off, this is as likely as the stupid spherical cow. What sort of ecosystem is that? Accepting as posited, I'm okay with light existing where no one can see it, and the same goes for smells unsmelt and tastes untasted. What makes sound so special? It's just vibrations in a medium. Exists whether it's perceived or not.


Sean K - Feb 08, 2007 1:30:37 pm PST #9431 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think you're now officially the least existential person ever.


Zenkitty - Feb 08, 2007 1:32:56 pm PST #9432 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Physics, calculus, quantum mechanics, and shoes. Buffista conversations make me all quivery and warm.