Inara: I think she looks adorable. Mal: Yeah, but I never said it.

'Shindig'


The Crying of Natter 49  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sean K - Feb 08, 2007 1:12:10 pm PST #9429 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

However, the fucking tree made fucking noise when it fucking fell. What sort of nonsense question is that.

But do wave-like vibrations in air count as sound if they do not interact with a living creature's auditory receptors?


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2007 1:17:39 pm PST #9430 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wikipedia says:

Decoherence does not provide a mechanism for the actual wave function collapse; rather it provides a mechanism for the appearance of wavefunction collapse.

I just don't know if that contradicts what you said.

But do wave-like vibrations in air count as sound if they do not interact with a living creature's auditory receptors?

First off, this is as likely as the stupid spherical cow. What sort of ecosystem is that? Accepting as posited, I'm okay with light existing where no one can see it, and the same goes for smells unsmelt and tastes untasted. What makes sound so special? It's just vibrations in a medium. Exists whether it's perceived or not.


Sean K - Feb 08, 2007 1:30:37 pm PST #9431 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think you're now officially the least existential person ever.


Zenkitty - Feb 08, 2007 1:32:56 pm PST #9432 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Physics, calculus, quantum mechanics, and shoes. Buffista conversations make me all quivery and warm.


Aims - Feb 08, 2007 1:34:31 pm PST #9433 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Do porn stars make noise if no one's watching the porn?


Miracleman - Feb 08, 2007 1:34:39 pm PST #9434 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

However, the fucking tree made fucking noise when it fucking fell. What sort of nonsense question is that.

But do wave-like vibrations in air count as sound if they do not interact with a living creature's auditory receptors?

The tree made a sound (vibrations in the air) when it fell. If nobody heard it, then it did not make a noise (interpreted sound).

That's my take.


Aims - Feb 08, 2007 1:35:46 pm PST #9435 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Is it any wonder we're married?


Polter-Cow - Feb 08, 2007 1:37:29 pm PST #9436 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The tree made a sound (vibrations in the air) when it fell. If nobody heard it, then it did not make a noise (interpreted sound).

I knew there was a reason I liked you.


Miracleman - Feb 08, 2007 1:38:20 pm PST #9437 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

That and I give you candy when you do tricks.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2007 1:39:55 pm PST #9438 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think you're now officially the least existential person ever.

Bah. The viewer isn't required. No one has to experience something for it to exist.

MM, I'm going with the definition of noise (n) that has it as a synonym for sound (n). I swapped that into the traditional wording without any intention of changing the meaning of the question.