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The Crying of Natter 49  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Miracleman - Jan 24, 2007 12:55:02 pm PST #5607 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

You have been a participant in the biggest interdimensional cross rip since the Tunguska blast of 1909!

Disappointed me no end when I learned the blast actually happened in 1908. Damn you, Dr. Stantz, and damn me for believing in you!!


Nilly - Jan 24, 2007 12:55:21 pm PST #5608 of 10001
Swouncing

I'm going to go home before I fall asleep sitting and the other students find me here like this in the morning. Bye! Have fun storming the Natter!

I hope I'll get to post with y'all soon again.


Hayden - Jan 24, 2007 12:55:55 pm PST #5609 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Bye!


beth b - Jan 24, 2007 12:57:25 pm PST #5610 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Gonzales says the Constitution doesn't guarantee habeas corpus ( this is from the headline)

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DavidS - Jan 24, 2007 12:57:41 pm PST #5611 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Electrical resonance - I'm realizing that while there's plenty of science behind electrical engineering, it's still pretty fucking magical in a way.


DavidS - Jan 24, 2007 12:58:19 pm PST #5612 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Gonzales says the Constitution doesn't guarantee habeas corpus

Well, they already suspended it so that's kind of moot.


Burrell - Jan 24, 2007 1:06:51 pm PST #5613 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

From what I understand, they only suspended habeas corpus for non-citizens who are considered enemy combatants. But still, if the Constitution doesn't, in their reading, guarantee habeas corpus, there's nothing to stop them from drafting a law that suspends it for, say, citizens charged with treason or some such.

But we have a lot of smart lawyers here. Is there solid legal support for the claim that a Constitutional prohibition against suspending or abridging a right is not, in fact, a Constitutional guarantee of such a right?


bon bon - Jan 24, 2007 1:09:14 pm PST #5614 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I think he is trying to suggest that since habeas corpus is not constitutionally mandated, Congress has the power to suspend. But no Supreme Court in the land would ever agree with that reasoning.

ETA: xpost with Burrell.

2d edit to respond to Burrell: off the top of my head I don't know. But I know that when Miranda was passed, Congress passed a little-known statute that overturned it. Even C.J. Rehnquist, who publicly stated that Miranda was not constitutionally mandated, changed his mind when this law came up for review, in Dickerson. The Court does not necessarily willingly allow Congress to limit its power in this way and I cannot imagine they would interpret the Constitution otherwise.


Kathy A - Jan 24, 2007 1:10:11 pm PST #5615 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I think it was the Daily Show that did something about Gonzales's statement, wasn't it with Jason Jones? I'll have to look it up online when I get home.


Kalshane - Jan 24, 2007 1:12:07 pm PST #5616 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Thanks for the insent, Kalshane. Somehow I managed to misplace my phone. At least it wasn't until after I left one message and talked to the other person of the unsettling calls. This one will be a cakewalk in comparison.

You're welcome. Hope it's helpful.