Take me, sir. Take me hard.

Zoe ,'War Stories'


The Crying of Natter 49  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Jan 24, 2007 12:42:42 pm PST #5599 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

One or two people claimed there was radiation, but no one else could confirm it.

Well, if an alien spacecraft crashed or exploded, could it look like Tunguska?

If a spaceship exploded in midair because of, for example, a breach in the warp core, it could possibly create the same effect, but no one's found unusual metals or dilithium crystals at the site. You'd think that you'd find some residue.


tommyrot - Jan 24, 2007 12:45:15 pm PST #5600 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Denying the inventiveness of pre-modern people in favor of believing in extraterrestrial aliens? Feh.

How else do you explain the existence of primitive, stylized stone carvings that look vaguely (if you use your immagination) sorta' like some guy in a weird space suit-like helmet thingie?


Cashmere - Jan 24, 2007 12:45:56 pm PST #5601 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I fucking HATE the holiday hangover week. We're having one.

The only cure for it is the tax refund check. But that requires doing our taxes. Sometimes the cure really is worse than the disease.


Hayden - Jan 24, 2007 12:47:45 pm PST #5602 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Denying the inventiveness of pre-modern people in favor of believing in extraterrestrial aliens? Feh.

Occam's Razor was the aliens' gift to humanity.


DavidS - Jan 24, 2007 12:49:29 pm PST #5603 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've never heard of Tunguska either.

::high fives fellow ignoramous::

The most prominent theory about Tunguksa (according to wikipedia) is that a meteor (about 30 feet across) exploded before it struck the earth. The blast pattern in the trees is butterfly shaped, which is consistent with a high powered blast that occurs above ground with initial forces going straight down, then spreading out horizontally after hitting the earth.

My favorite theory is that Tesla set it off:

It has also been suggested, by Oliver Nichelson, that the Tunguska explosion was the result of an experiment by Nikola Tesla at his Wardenclyffe Tower, performed during one of Robert Peary's North Pole expeditions. It is claimed that Tesla sent a communication to Peary advising him to be on the alert for 'unusual auroral phenomena' encountered as he attempted to reach the North Pole. However, by the time of the Tunguska event most work at Wardenclyffe had already ended and the site was mostly abandoned. In addition, it is by no means apparent how the small energy input at Wardenclyffe could be responsible for such a large energy output elsewhere. Also this event happened on June 30, 1908 and Peary didn't leave New York for the North Pole until July 6, 1908.

The Nichelson theory is that Peary would encounter a destruction field when he did reach the North Pole so having the Tunguska event take place before Peary departed does not contradict the theory. Though Tesla had lost major research funding by 1908, his Wardenclyffe facility was still operational in 1908. It was not until 1917 that it was torn down. The theory is that the lack of funding may have caused Tesla to use his transmitter in this dramatic fashion in order to continue his power transmission investigations.

The large amount of energy required to cause such an event could easily be achieved by the process of electrical resonance in which power could be built up over a period of days. Electrical resonance was a process well known at that time. This power build up over a period of time corresponds to the "bright nights" reported over Europe days prior to the explosion.

There are other theories such as a naturally occuring hydrogen bomb from a deuterium rich meteor.


Allyson - Jan 24, 2007 12:50:20 pm PST #5604 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I wonder if my agency is supposed to give me a 1090.

Hm.

Tax refund. Yum.


§ ita § - Jan 24, 2007 12:51:27 pm PST #5605 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You'd think that you'd find some residue.

I'm mostly of the mind that it's hard to prove it wasn't a spaceship, since we really have no idea what one would look like. Which is very different (for me) from believing it was a spaceship. I'm generously Schrödingery about the whole thing.

Thanks for the insent, Kalshane. Somehow I managed to misplace my phone. At least it wasn't until after I left one message and talked to the other person of the unsettling calls. This one will be a cakewalk in comparison.

Once the hardware manifests itself, that is.


tommyrot - Jan 24, 2007 12:53:30 pm PST #5606 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My favorite theory is that Tesla set it off:

Ooh! Maybe Tesla and Edison each built giant flying robots, and the explosion was the result of the two robots battling it out in space!

The large amount of energy required to cause such an event could easily be achieved by the process of electrical resonance in which power could be built up over a period of days. Electrical resonance was a process well known at that time. This power build up over a period of time corresponds to the "bright nights" reported over Europe days prior to the explosion.

WTF is electrical resonance? Sounds like something someone made up for The X Files.


Miracleman - Jan 24, 2007 12:55:02 pm PST #5607 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

You have been a participant in the biggest interdimensional cross rip since the Tunguska blast of 1909!

Disappointed me no end when I learned the blast actually happened in 1908. Damn you, Dr. Stantz, and damn me for believing in you!!


Nilly - Jan 24, 2007 12:55:21 pm PST #5608 of 10001
Swouncing

I'm going to go home before I fall asleep sitting and the other students find me here like this in the morning. Bye! Have fun storming the Natter!

I hope I'll get to post with y'all soon again.