Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


The Crying of Natter 49  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Jan 17, 2007 2:05:56 pm PST #3674 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'd even go so far as to say that I've seen mammals grieve.

When my aunt died, their Siamese ran round and round the house day after day, screaming and obviously looking for something. She had never done that when my aunt or uncle were gone for a few days. The vet finally told them that Ling Ling would never be happy in that house without my aunt, but could possibly settle down in another home. My uncle gave her to a friend, and she eventually settled down. Grief? Recognition of some major change? Lack of the usual food person?


-t - Jan 17, 2007 2:07:32 pm PST #3675 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Heck, I've seen them do REM.

We call that their RPM cycle, for Rapid Paw Movement.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 17, 2007 2:07:36 pm PST #3676 of 10001
What is even happening?

Grief? Recognition of some major change? Lack of the usual food person?

We'll never know. Cat had her tongue.


amych - Jan 17, 2007 2:08:19 pm PST #3677 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Cat had her tongue.

Haven't lived with many Siamese, have you?


Cass - Jan 17, 2007 2:12:16 pm PST #3678 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Haven't lived with many Siamese, have you?
Heh!


Jessica - Jan 17, 2007 2:13:33 pm PST #3679 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

How do we know animals have feelings, again?

We don't. They have behaviors that some humans choose to interpret as emotionally driven. (Personally, I think it's a stretch, or at least requires a very broad definition of "emotion.")


DavidS - Jan 17, 2007 2:17:30 pm PST #3680 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

(Personally, I think it's a stretch, or at least requires a very broad definition of "emotion.")

Whereas I'd contend that humans have a very limited definition of "emotion" that's mostly tied up with cognition.

In other news...A beautifully murdered tree.


Polter-Cow - Jan 17, 2007 2:19:18 pm PST #3681 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it not bleed?


Scrappy - Jan 17, 2007 2:19:18 pm PST #3682 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Well, emotions in the terms of preferences. Our dog has "friends" at the dog park. There are usually 20 or so dogs there, some who she sees just about every time she goes and want to play with her, but she will look around for her friends and run over to them every time to play. If her friends aren't there, she'll play with the other dogs, or lie down. How that feels to her, I don't know. I call it liking.


Nutty - Jan 17, 2007 2:20:44 pm PST #3683 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

My cat wallows in things that smell like me when I'm away, and clings to me when I get back. She says hello when I get home (she is Egyptian, which is like Siamese only not cross-eyed), and begs, beeeegs, to be let into the basement whenever I approach that door. She sits by my chair when I am typing and stares at me with sorrowful disdain until I let her onto my lap. Like now!

It's nice to be needed so pathetically by something that avowedly does not have the power to vote and will never be able to enter therapy and blame me for my crappy parenting.