Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.

'Serenity'


The Crying of Natter 49  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jan 17, 2007 1:56:35 pm PST #3666 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How do we know animals have feelings, again?

Why would you presume they don't? The certainly express happiness and desondency and boredom and anger and fear.

I'd even go so far as to say that I've seen mammals grieve.


erikaj - Jan 17, 2007 1:56:36 pm PST #3667 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I talk to my dog and my cat all the time. But I don't exactly think they answer. It is nice to talk to them because you know they won't put your junk on the street.


Burrell - Jan 17, 2007 1:56:45 pm PST #3668 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

If by known you mean scientifically verified, I don't know that it has been proven animal have feelings. So it turn out that when we say we know--or at least when I say it--I should properly say that I believe it.


DavidS - Jan 17, 2007 1:59:28 pm PST #3669 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oooh, look. It's World of Warcraft Mania!


Cass - Jan 17, 2007 2:00:32 pm PST #3670 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

but I would say it's anthropomorphizing to ascribe human, ego-driven motivations to animal behaviors.
Kittenish is tuna-driven. Whole different vibe.


Burrell - Jan 17, 2007 2:02:55 pm PST #3671 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Okay, see y'all later peeps. I'm going back home to the land of no internet access. (And yes, there's a whole post I didn't write yet about the frustrations of being sans internet for a whole week.)


Connie Neil - Jan 17, 2007 2:04:36 pm PST #3672 of 10001
brillig

I know my cats have nightmares. They'll jump up out of a sound sleep, stare around, stare at us, shake themselves, and lay back down. I think everyone knows that critters dream. Heck, I've seen them do REM.


Ailleann - Jan 17, 2007 2:05:29 pm PST #3673 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Not to interrupt the cat chat, but is Gmail down for anyone else?


Ginger - Jan 17, 2007 2:05:56 pm PST #3674 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'd even go so far as to say that I've seen mammals grieve.

When my aunt died, their Siamese ran round and round the house day after day, screaming and obviously looking for something. She had never done that when my aunt or uncle were gone for a few days. The vet finally told them that Ling Ling would never be happy in that house without my aunt, but could possibly settle down in another home. My uncle gave her to a friend, and she eventually settled down. Grief? Recognition of some major change? Lack of the usual food person?


-t - Jan 17, 2007 2:07:32 pm PST #3675 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Heck, I've seen them do REM.

We call that their RPM cycle, for Rapid Paw Movement.