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Buffistechnology 3: "Press Some Buttons, See What Happens."

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Sean K - May 20, 2008 9:52:21 am PDT #6276 of 25501
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Can Leopard be installed on any dual core computer?


Tom Scola - May 20, 2008 9:59:26 am PDT #6277 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Out of the box, Leopard can only be installed on Apple hardware.

There are hacking sites that let you do that, Sean, but from all accounts, it doesn't work very well (the fans might run at full blast all the time, for example).

I hear that it works better inside a VM, like VMWare.


amych - May 20, 2008 10:03:25 am PDT #6278 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Do you mean any dual core mac (yes, or any G5 and faster G4s), or any dual core computer? In that case, there are people who have gotten it running, but it's apparently very picky about exactly which hardware it'll run on, which makes it a lot harder to install on third party hardware than other OSes.

eta: The VMWare idea is a good one, and probably easier than futzing.


Sean K - May 20, 2008 10:06:53 am PDT #6279 of 25501
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

any dual core computer?

Any dual core computer. My dad bought a new tablet, and was thinking about getting a second computer to get back into Macs, but I was wondering if just installing Leopard on the new computer was an option, but it sounds like not.


amych - May 20, 2008 10:30:26 am PDT #6280 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Doubtful, especially with a notebook -- but the OSx86 Project maintains hardware compatibility lists and installation instructions if you're feeling masochistic. Note that even if you can do it on this machine, you won't have tablet functionality.


Sean K - May 20, 2008 10:38:47 am PDT #6281 of 25501
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Note that even if you can do it on this machine, you won't have tablet functionality.

I figured as much. I'm now instead walking him through refurbed options. That seems to be a much better way to go, especially if it's not his main work computer. He can get a light little refurbed 13" for under $1,000.


NoiseDesign - May 20, 2008 10:40:08 am PDT #6282 of 25501
Our wings are not tired

They had a refurbed 15" Macbook Pro the other night for $1299 and one for $1499 last night. You tend to have to be up to check in the middle of the night for those deals though as they sell quickly.


amych - May 20, 2008 10:40:13 am PDT #6283 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Yeah, that kind of hacking is definitely only for people who actually enjoy it -- and it's often enough headache-inducing even then.


tiggy - May 21, 2008 7:31:22 am PDT #6284 of 25501
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

anybody know of a (free!) program i can use to rip a specific portion of an .mp3?


le nubian - May 21, 2008 8:43:43 am PDT #6285 of 25501
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

mac or pc?

can you tell us more what you want to do? do you want to edit a mp3 down? make a ringtone?