But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. And you found me broken. It's hard for you.

River ,'Safe'


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sumi - Mar 08, 2008 6:26:16 am PST #5098 of 25501
Art Crawl!!!

Okay - I will try that.


Lee - Mar 08, 2008 7:07:28 am PST #5099 of 25501
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

In my house, it's also sometimes the cat's fault, or mine really, for leaving the remote on HIS couch.


Kevin - Mar 08, 2008 7:45:10 am PST #5100 of 25501
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Here's a question. Since the iPhone SDK needs an Intel Mac, I'm toying with the idea of buying a Macbook Air. Has anybody got one? As they any good?


DCJensen - Mar 08, 2008 8:09:08 am PST #5101 of 25501
All is well that ends in pizza.

Well, they've only been shipping over a month, hard to tell if there are any major flaws.

Other than needing a separate optical drive, or borrowing one from a nearby computer over the network, it looks like a fun machine.


Deena - Mar 08, 2008 8:51:05 am PST #5102 of 25501
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Thanks for the GnuCash rec, DX. I was just looking for something like that.


beekaytee - Mar 08, 2008 3:57:01 pm PST #5103 of 25501
Compassionately intolerant

Liquid ledger looks good.

I wish I were tough enough for the gnu cash installation. I feel like a wimp. But with all that I've got going on, the shortest, flattest learning curve is the way I must go.


beekaytee - Mar 08, 2008 6:21:57 pm PST #5104 of 25501
Compassionately intolerant

Turns out that the quickbooks copy I have is NUE (new user edition) which seems to be less complex.

This may be a Natter question, given all the accounting savvy folks we have. If so, I will move it.

As a sole proprietor who has been bleeding money for the last few years (and turning that around, please all that is holy) my personal accounts ARE my business accounts...mixed personal and business expenses on all my credit cards and bank accounts.

Is there a simple strategy within accounting software to make this work?

Truly, nearly all my outgoings, except for food, are business related...even my rent, as my office is in my home.


le nubian - Mar 09, 2008 7:39:34 am PDT #5105 of 25501
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I can comment about the difference between quickbooks and quicken, but I have used quicken for years (literally, since 1990) and I have found it to be quite suitable for most of my needs. I do not own a business, however.

the categories in quicken can really help you identify business vs. personal expenses. I just categorize all my business expenses as such and run a report when it is tax time.


Typo Boy - Mar 09, 2008 9:03:22 am PDT #5106 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Bonny fides, obviously you can use the same bank accounts and credit cards if you wish, but you do somehow have to find a way to enter just business transactions into your books. I presume you know that "business related" is not the same as "legit business expenses". For example there are are standards for what percent of your rent is allocated to your business based on how much room your business takes up in your home. (There are also IRS standards for what is tax deductible, but these are different from cost accounting.) Umm as I said, you probably know this, but the way you phrased it made me think a reminder would not hurt.

To make your life easier, you might check with your credit card company. You know how you can a spouse or a kid or whatever to your credit card account? Some credit cards will let you add seperate card for business purposes, where transactions on that card show up differently on the statement. Also if you know what percent of your expenses are business related, you could divide your line of credit into two cards: almost any credit card company will let you do that.

For checks, I presume you have no trouble keeping track of business as opposed to personal spending in one checking account. If your business has grown to the point where this is a pain, and it is really generating substantial revenue (as in enough income to constitute anet hourly wage), you might want to check with your bank: maybe they can find a way to make a second bank account inexpensive and convenient - with one of them drawing on the other so that the combined balance is always available from at least one of the accounts.


-t - Mar 09, 2008 9:11:40 am PDT #5107 of 25501
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Is there a simple strategy within accounting software to make this work?

Probably the easiest thing to do is categorize all your personal expenses as Equity Draws - money that you pay yourself as owner. They don't reduce your profits, they are what you pay yourself out of profits, if you see what I mean. If you want to track your non-business finances also, you should do that separately.