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Jessica - Feb 19, 2008 3:47:37 am PST #4823 of 25501
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Aw, HD-DVD, we hardly knew ye!

Is this Sony's first format-war win?


Tom Scola - Feb 19, 2008 4:05:37 am PST #4824 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Sony partnered with Philips to create the CD format, which was a win.

But Sony blew it with Beta, DAT, Mini-Disc, SACD and UMD.

Before the DVD was released, Sony and Philips were ready to go to war with a Toshiba alliance over the format, but a compromise was brokered. The result was the most successful consumer electronics introduction ever. You would think that they would have learned their lesson.


tommyrot - Feb 19, 2008 5:18:28 am PST #4825 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Just yesterday, I heard two news reports about how Blu-Ray seemed to be winning but nothing was decided yet.

Nah, it was pretty much decided a few weeks ago when a major studio decided to drop HD-DVD.

You would think that they would have learned their lesson.

But that would require them to play nice.


amych - Feb 19, 2008 5:35:17 am PST #4826 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Yeah, yesterday's news reports were of the "they've announced that they're going to make an announcement soon" flavor, but the studio news a few months back had since been followed up by news that Best Buy, Wal-Mart, and Netflix would all be switching their new purchases to Blu-ray only. Lots of writing on the wall for the dork obsessives who watch such.

We have Blu-ray, but only because it's what's in the PS3 -- we certainly weren't going to buy either format for its own sake until after the format war worked itself out, but they're mighty nice to watch when they turn up in the Netflix.


Wolfram - Feb 19, 2008 5:35:33 am PST #4827 of 25501
Visilurking

But Sony blew it with Beta, DAT, Mini-Disc, SACD and UMD.

And what's with the proprietary memory stick? They can't use SD like everyone else?


tommyrot - Feb 19, 2008 5:38:24 am PST #4828 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Wasn't their proprietary memory stick a part of their bizarre and onerous DRM scheme for their portable digital music players? Or was that a separate fuckup?


Vortex - Feb 19, 2008 5:56:07 am PST #4829 of 25501
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Okay, I'm horribly plebian and uninformed, but what does this actually mean for the rest of us? I'm assuming that my regular DVD player will continue to work, and it only matters if I'm trying to watch something in super clarity (trying not to say HD and confuse the issue). What about people who have HD DVD players? Burners?


Kristen - Feb 19, 2008 6:22:03 am PST #4830 of 25501

We have Blu-ray, but only because it's what's in the PS3

For that, you are fortunate since the Blu-Ray folks admitted recently that special features on the new generation of BR discs might not work on the older BR players. I'm told they were quietly recommending that people buy Playstations.


Tom Scola - Feb 19, 2008 6:51:53 am PST #4831 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Okay, I'm horribly plebian and uninformed, but what does this actually mean for the rest of us? I'm assuming that my regular DVD player will continue to work, and it only matters if I'm trying to watch something in super clarity (trying not to say HD and confuse the issue).

Basically, you need a big-screen TV (and a Blu-Ray player and disc, of course). Your old DVDs will continue to work in a Blu-Ray player. Most or all of the Blu-Ray players come with the ability to "upscale" older DVDs, so that they will look a little better, but still not as good as a native Blu-Ray disc.

What about people who have HD DVD players? Burners?

They're basically screwed, although you can still use your HD DVD player to watch upscaled regular DVDs, which aren't going away any time soon.


Vortex - Feb 19, 2008 7:00:55 am PST #4832 of 25501
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

okay. My new laptop has an HD DVD burner, but I don't have an HD tv, so I wasn't particularly concerned about it. Although, eventually, I'd hoped to upgrade.