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javachik - Dec 01, 2016 9:07:47 am PST #24938 of 25496
Our wings are not tired.

ND, is that for home or work location?


NoiseDesign - Dec 01, 2016 9:49:48 am PST #24939 of 25496
Our wings are not tired

Most of the new stuff is for work. At home we have Hue lights and a Nest thermostat. I have them both integrated with our Harmony remote system.


javachik - Dec 01, 2016 11:10:17 am PST #24940 of 25496
Our wings are not tired.

Cool. I am going to be making changes to my alarm and thermostat soon too so am taking notes.


Jessica - Dec 01, 2016 6:43:22 pm PST #24941 of 25496
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

We have a Nest thermostat and smoke detector hooked up to Alexa. I've thought about putting in a smartlock on the door, but most of them have pretty crappy reviews - ND, what do you like about yours?


NoiseDesign - Dec 01, 2016 9:00:50 pm PST #24942 of 25496
Our wings are not tired

I'm using the August. The big thing that appealed to me is that is works with your choice of deadbolt, so I was able to keep a high end Medco key lock as the manual security with a smart lock on the back end.

For the business is saves me from issuing keys. When an employee leaves, or a part timer no longer needs access, I simply remove them from the smart lock access. I have a much much smaller pool of keys out in the world. I can also easily see who unlocked the door, and when, and schedule access windows.

I'm finishing up the HomeKit connections, but once that's all squared away, it also means that I can check the lock status remotely, and even lock or unlock the office remotely.


Gudanov - Dec 02, 2016 4:07:29 am PST #24943 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping

I have a CT101 thermostat which Lowe's is essentially phasing out in favor of a less expensive and better one. Still, it works just fine, I set up a schedule on my phone and pretty much leave it alone. Other family members may bump the temp sometimes, but the schedule then brings it back in line when a temperature change is programmed in. I have a couple of connected smoke/CO2 detectors as well and a couple of connected power plugs and motion sensors. To be honest I don't really do much controlling of things and just schedule or let motion sensors trigger things.

Just some general notes. Zigbee devices are generally going to be more reliable than Z-Wave devices since the protocol is more robust and doesn't leave as many opportunities to get into a weird state. In either case, they are mesh network devices so strategic placement of line-powered devices (like switches and outlets) can make your network more reliable. Be careful with cheap WiFi devices that aren't part of a smart-home platform (like cheap Wi-Fi cameras). With Iris, Wi-Fi devices communicate with two-way TLS encryption and authentication, but a stand-alone device may not provide much in the way of security because it can be really complicated and makes the device more expensive.


Volans - Dec 02, 2016 5:07:05 am PST #24944 of 25496
move out and draw fire

The makerspace I'm a member of uses the August as well. It seems to be pretty good, and members can look online to see if the space is open. If it's not and you need it, the Lockmasters can open it for you remotely.

Mal's room is fully smart, but the DH made me return the Nest thermostats because of a study I did on hacking them.


NoiseDesign - Dec 02, 2016 8:44:57 am PST #24945 of 25496
Our wings are not tired

That's great information Gud. I was looking at Zigbee. The main reason I'm on Z-Wave now is because that's what the alarm system had. Another small business owner that's a friend here in LA just installed the Frontpoint system and really like it, so I went that way. They also had a pretty good black Friday deal that made it a tipping point.

I'm really finding that my biggest complaint with all the home automation stuff is that there area a few big standards out there and it seems like none of them are really strong across all of the product categories. I wanted my alarm system to have cellular connection for monitoring, and cloud storage for all the camera feeds, as well as smart phone monitoring and control. Once I found the handful of systems that seemed to do that in a decent way it really limited my other options.


Gudanov - Dec 02, 2016 9:12:02 am PST #24946 of 25496
Coding and Sleeping

Z-Wave came out before Zigbee so it got a headstart in the market, but the reason they came out first is that they rushed to market without really getting everything fully baked.

We're working toward getting everything integrated. Iris can work with Z-Wave, Zigbee, and Wi-Fi devices. It can be controlled by Alexa devices. Next year we'll have a professional security monitoring option, and we're looking to bring in more devices and partners all the time.


Liese S. - Dec 02, 2016 3:58:28 pm PST #24947 of 25496
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah I think that's the problem for early adopters, ND. I feel like the standards will even out in a few years as adoption increases, but I agree that there's not one clear winner with all the toys yet.