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Rob - Nov 20, 2012 8:48:25 pm PST #21560 of 25501

1 nice thing(s).


§ ita § - Nov 21, 2012 8:11:09 pm PST #21561 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why could he not even have argued (s)? I know I'm an easy mark, but I'm stunned at some of the stuff people will choose to argue. He wasn't sure how much I knew about managing a software project, or anything about how an SDLC worked. If your project is such so that's a *fix* and not a condition of passing initial testing you clearly have a problem somewhere, but do you seriously not see a benefit to having a minimum level of "presentable" that includes grammar.

Pfft.

Anyway--so ADW Launcher, amongst other things, seems to have unsorted my app drawer, and I there's no useful logic left--it's in date installed order, which pretty much makes me feel like I'm being stalked by Launchpad, but both ideas are so simply flawed to me.

Do you really have to install a third party application in order to sort Launchpad? What happens when your first screen fills with you-installed programs? Does it put another tiny white dot over a section of your wallpaper that might very well be white itself, meaning you need to flip to the next wallpaper in your series to get more apps out of it?

I don't understand what the immediate benefit of this is, and most anything I can google is either telling you to install something else or run a command line delete of the data behind it. That's not very Maccy, is it? Something like this shouldn't put a novice user in that position to satisfy a simple requirement.

I know the Application folder is still accessible, but the Launchpad must have had a selling point, no?


-t - Nov 22, 2012 4:26:28 am PST #21562 of 25501
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I have not fiddled with Launchpad, but I can confirm that when the first page fills up you get the site dot telling you there's another page(s, depending)

And while I'm looking at Launchpad - these applications are clearly not in first installed order, but I have no idea what order they might be in. It seems to have no reason behind it.


-t - Nov 22, 2012 6:27:08 am PST #21563 of 25501
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

OK, I feel dumb for not being able to understand this but Google is not helping me and probably someone here knows. My new Mac mini has a 1 TB Fusion Drive. If I look at it in Disk Utility, i'm told it has 1.12 TB Capacity, 1.13 GB Available, and 33.49 GB Used. How on earth does that work?


§ ita § - Nov 22, 2012 7:14:19 pm PST #21564 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

these applications are clearly not in first installed order, but I have no idea what order they might be in

That's interesting. I think by date of addition is as dumb as anything you can't choose, so it might as well be random. I do know for sure that the first row of mine is in added order, as are the last two rows. Kinda fuzzy on the rest.

A discussion I was reading on skeumorphism cited Paper on the iPad as the last good example of it, and while I have no idea how well it works, it is certainly absolutely gorgeous. Wow. I want something like that for...for anything. I have Artrage Studio on OS X, and I thought that was a stunning example, but it pales in comparison to Paper.


Rob - Nov 22, 2012 8:29:57 pm PST #21565 of 25501

My understanding of skeuomorphism is when functional elements of an older design are kept in a new design for purely ornamental purposes. I'm not sure that applies to Paper.

The example most cited is the fake leather stitching on calendar.


§ ita § - Nov 23, 2012 5:16:51 am PST #21566 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My understanding of it is that it's a visual element of the physical original that is not necessary in the new design. So if turning a page looks like a page flip, or if your tools look like a pencil or brush but doesn't need to, that's skeuomorphism. And Paper counts on that front.

I mean, if Photoshop doesn't need it for successful graphics application, it's a visual metaphor that's adornment.

Good skeuomorphism isn't purely ornamental, because it's informational, but it's not all good by a long shot.


Rob - Nov 23, 2012 5:57:26 am PST #21567 of 25501

Purely ornamental purposes was how it was put in the definition I read. I'm not sure I'd agree that there's anything in Paper that meets that definition, but it's certainly highly subjective.


§ ita § - Nov 23, 2012 6:44:35 am PST #21568 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The definition I'm familiar with would mark UI components like the first and third as skeuomorphism (god, it's a delight to page through their site): [link]


Rob - Nov 23, 2012 6:58:33 am PST #21569 of 25501

I'm not sure I agree on the first one, the page flipping animation has benefits in user comprehension.

The third one might be less functional, I'm not sure what function the elastic band could possibly have in the UI.