Well, a gathering is brie, mellow song stylings; shindig, dip, less mellow song stylings, perhaps a large amount of malt beverage, and hootenanny, well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny.

Oz ,'Beneath You'


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tommyrot - Oct 04, 2012 8:30:31 am PDT #21167 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How much better is the sound using FLAC as opposed to, say, ~200 kbps VBR MP3 encoding (which is what most of my music is)?

My ears are pretty sensitive to minor differences in music, so I'm wondering if I should use FLAC compression for some albums.


Gris - Oct 04, 2012 8:36:42 am PDT #21168 of 25501
Hey. New board.

How much better is the sound using FLAC as opposed to, say, ~200 kbps VBR MP3 encoding (which is what most of my music is)?

The answer is "depends" - basically, 192 kbps VBR can be very different depending on the encoder. There are lots of settings.

Back when I knew more about this, using the LAME encoder with the "--alt-preset-standard" command line switch was considered the best VBR option, resulted in about 192 kbps VBR, and had some pretty serious double-blind test to show that it was virtually indistinguishable from CDs, even with the highest quality audiophile equipment. On any level of consumer equipment, the'd be the same.

The 192 VBR used by iTunes at the time was far inferior. I could tell the difference sometimes when using my friend's really really good headphones on certain polyphonic tracks. On a double-blind we conducted, I was able to finger the VBR files about 60% of the time (better than random, but not much better). My friend did a little better (70%-ish).

So...it depends. FLAC will guarantee no difference, and if you've got the space it's great to use. But 320 kbps CBR MP3 will also pretty much guarantee you won't hear a difference, as would lame --alt-preset-standard.


tommyrot - Oct 04, 2012 8:43:30 am PDT #21169 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Interesting.

At least most people don't call 128 kbps (no VBR) mp3's "CD quality" anymore.

I also just checked and found that eMusic files are generally 240 kbps VBR mp3's these days. (I get most of my music now from eMusic and the iTunes store.)


Rob - Oct 04, 2012 11:20:56 am PDT #21170 of 25501

The thing about FLAC (or ALAC if you're in the Apple camp) isn't that it sounds better but that it maintains exactly the same bits as came off the CD. That way you can re-compress it using MP3 or AAC or super-whizzy holographic future format to put on your devices.


§ ita § - Oct 04, 2012 7:48:57 pm PDT #21171 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My sister is looking to record clinical interviews. They will all be indoor, and she won't be adding her own lighting. She doesn't have a tripod, but considers that she might need one.

Is this the right direction: [link] ?

She'd be storing not more than an hour's worth of video before transferring it to a computer.


Gris - Oct 05, 2012 3:54:10 am PDT #21172 of 25501
Hey. New board.

super-whizzy holographic future format to put on your devices.

Well, this assumes that super-whizzy holographic future formats won't expect a better-than-CD-input (like SACD, for example). But, yes. It's an awesome archival format.


Shir - Oct 05, 2012 4:12:42 am PDT #21173 of 25501
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

So, I have a technology question.

A bunch of friends from all over the world is looking for an online space where we can 1. chat, 2. listen to music together, and 3. do it for free. Places such as Spotify and Turntable are closed for non-U.S. folks.

Any ideas, or suggestions?


le nubian - Oct 05, 2012 5:53:15 am PDT #21174 of 25501
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

google hangout?


Rob - Oct 05, 2012 6:38:59 am PDT #21175 of 25501

Well, this assumes that super-whizzy holographic future formats won't expect a better-than-CD-input (like SACD, for example)

If they do I guess it won't matter what format you stored your ripped CDs in.


Jon B. - Oct 05, 2012 6:47:21 am PDT #21176 of 25501
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Any ideas, or suggestions?

Here's a bunch of turntable.fm clones. No idea if any work internationally or how good they are: [link]