Now, this would be the perfect time for a swear word.

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§ ita § - Dec 02, 2010 10:15:30 am PST #15532 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"At the $1,000 dollar level we plant a tree ripped out of a national park in your yard."

You can get Misha Collins to do that for free, but the tree will be dead.


Ginger - Dec 02, 2010 12:10:29 pm PST #15533 of 25501
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'm having connecting to the internet issues, and I don't know where to go from here.

This morning the internet connection on desktop was working fine. I have two lines and it was connected to one that has been working. The other line was out. The ATT guy came and redid some wiring in the box to fix that line. Right after he started work, my internet connection went out, but I figured it was just because he was testing both lines. He left and I realized it was still out. He says nothing he did could have affected the connection.

I did several rounds of turning everything on and off and then deleting and setting up new connections and went through a round of testing and troubleshooting with a person in India.

The problem may not be in the line at all, though. (Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.) The modem shows a lighted DSL connection, and more to the point, I'm on the internet now with my netbook, using the modem and that phone line. That seems to indicate it's something in the computer, but I don't know how to confirm that or what to do next.

Update: Fixed! I was starting to work my way through an internet suggestion and found that the first step, which enabled local area connection, fixed it. It worked before without that. Sometimes I think computers just need attention. Perhaps the computer didn't realize that I had just bought it a new monitor and router.


tommyrot - Dec 02, 2010 1:28:06 pm PST #15534 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

More info on the Comcast/Netflix thing I posted the other day:

Will Comcast Destroy Net Neutrality?

The situation is actually complicated, and it's not clear that Comcast is in the wrong. An interesting read.


amych - Dec 02, 2010 6:15:55 pm PST #15535 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Comcast is always wrong.


Typo Boy - Dec 02, 2010 7:53:58 pm PST #15536 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Especially in a case like this. I think the argument that customers have already paid for access, and the provider should not be charged extra is a strong one. If Comcast was losing money they might have an argument, but Comcast profits are record breaking.

Also I have a rule of thumb. It is great to be perfectly fair when that is possible. But in the real world perfect fairness is not attainable. When that is the case, I say be unfair to the rich corporation rather than the ordinary schmoe. Again I prefer being unfair to nobody. But if we run into one of those unavoidable cases where life is not fair, then let the rich and powerful bear some of that burden.


le nubian - Dec 03, 2010 4:06:08 am PST #15537 of 25501
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

If Comcast was losing money they might have an argument, but Comcast profits are record breaking.

this needs to be bolded and written in the sky. Since Comcast is in the middle of buying NBC and there is strong evidence that people are streaming netflix instead of watching network tv, Comcast has an established conflict of interest.

What is amazing to me is that there is so much netflix streaming (17% of Internet activity on some evenings between 7p and 10p), despite the fact that you hear complaints about netflix's streaming catalogue. Can you imagine what the percentage would be if netflix's whole catalogue was available?

Comcast's on demand is a piece of shit, btw. Their menus are confusing. You cannot properly search, etc. Perhaps if they did their on demand like Netflix does people would watch their offerings more.


Jessica - Dec 03, 2010 4:44:18 am PST #15538 of 25501
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

When that is the case, I say be unfair to the rich corporation rather than the ordinary schmoe.

Both parties here are huge corporations. What Comcast is asking is for Level 3 to pay the same usage fees as Akamai did for the same service. End-users aren't in this fight at all.


Vortex - Dec 03, 2010 7:45:07 am PST #15539 of 25501
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Okay, this is awesome. It's apparently a new program to protect the info on your phone, but the website is VERY cool

Ben the Bodyguard


Typo Boy - Dec 03, 2010 7:54:41 am PST #15540 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yes end users are in this fight. If Comcast can charge another corporation for the costs of THEIR customers accessing that corp, it limits those customers access to services that can pay the ransome. Comcast has put bandwidth limitations in place. There is already a policy in place that your comcast fee only includes a limited number of gigabytes. So this is big time double dipping. If comcast was losing money or seeing outages they could change the rules again. But they are not losing money nor seeing outages. And if customers start actually using the bandwidth comcast nominally sells and it turns out that comcast does not actually have the bandwidth or peak capability they are selling maybe they should take some of their huge profits and expand their capability. I already pay buku bucks to comcast. So no, I am involved if they make a service I want to access pay them ransome in order for me to access them. At best that is an increase in fees for me through the back door. But more likely it means a lot of small providers won't be abel to provide service to me.


Jessica - Dec 03, 2010 8:11:49 am PST #15541 of 25501
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If Comcast can charge another corporation for the costs of THEIR customers accessing that corp, it limits those customers access to services that can pay the ransome.

When Akamai was delivering Netflix, they were paying Comcast for the ports/bandwidth usage. Now that Netflix has switched to Level 3 for content delivery, Level 3 is refusing to pay those costs.

It's possible that Level 3's additional usage *should* be included in their peering agreement with Comcast, but it's far from obvious. Akamai was paying for their usage because they are considered a CDN. Level 3 considers themselves to be a backbone provider even though they are now also in the business of delivering content. It's murky, and it's not even remotely as simple as "Comcast is evil therefore they are wrong."