...because God knows you need some satisfaction in life besides shagging Captain Cardboard! And I never really liked you anyway. And you have stupid hair!

Spike ,'Selfless'


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Deena - Jan 05, 2010 12:18:51 pm PST #12204 of 25501
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

PC, there's a program that will import from just about any email program and export into any email program. It's what saved me when I changed from Windows Mail to Outlook. It's intended as an archive program, but I used itfor the import/export. I'm pretty sure it was MailStore, which is here: [link]


tommyrot - Jan 05, 2010 12:27:50 pm PST #12205 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

From The Consumerist: Best Buy Optimization Is A Big Stupid Annoying Waste Of Money

Over the past year, a number of you have been telling us that, due to "pre-optimization" of computers, it's difficult -- sometimes impossible -- to walk into a Best Buy and leave with the advertised deal (in effect, you would be paying a $39.99 surcharge over the computer's advertised price). We decided to look into your complaints. We sent the Consumer Reports secret shoppers to 18 different Best Buys in 11 states, and one of our shoppers was denied the price advertised for a specific model because only pre-optimized computers were available. When the Consumer Reports engineers compared three "optimized" computers to ones with default factory settings, there was no performance improvement. In one case, an optimized laptop actually performed 32% worse than the factory model.


Polter-Cow - Jan 05, 2010 12:34:55 pm PST #12206 of 25501
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Thanks, Deena! I'll look into that. Unfortunately, as I suspected, I can't install it on my work computer, so the export remains a bit of a problem, especially since the ability to create new archives or add to existing archives has been disabled.


shrift - Jan 05, 2010 12:37:38 pm PST #12207 of 25501
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

What's a good program for running multiple IM accounts on a PC?

I use Pidgin: [link]


§ ita § - Jan 05, 2010 12:51:14 pm PST #12208 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

one of our shoppers was denied the price advertised for a specific model because only pre-optimized computers were available

Bingo! Happened to us with every model we decided we wanted. Bastards.


tommyrot - Jan 05, 2010 12:53:18 pm PST #12209 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Was that you you mentioned this before? The article rang a bell for me....

Anyway, hopefully all the bad publicity will learn them a lesson.


§ ita § - Jan 05, 2010 12:59:09 pm PST #12210 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, that was me and my sister getting hosed because I wasn't feeling up to the drive to Fry's. Never again. They have about 5 categories of poorly explained "optimisations" and just about everything we even looked at was bumped up in price by it. And when removing manufacturer crap leaves you with Best Buy icons on your desktop, they're not even pretending well.


tommyrot - Jan 05, 2010 1:01:28 pm PST #12211 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm sorta' amazed that a major retailer engaged in such a scam. (I mean, a scam this easy to expose.) Are they hurting financially, and this is a desperate strategy on their part to survive? Or was some corporate guy gonna lose his bonus if he didn't get sales back up?


Steph L. - Jan 05, 2010 2:02:06 pm PST #12212 of 25501
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Anyway, hopefully all the bad publicity will learn them a lesson.

Nah, BB is always on Consumerist's shit list, and nothing changes. Too many people who shop there don't even know the Consumerist exists, and they know so little about computers that they take BB's word for it that they need the "optimizations."

Which is what makes me the angriest -- that they cheerfully fleece people who don't know any better. (Well, I guess that's how the whole concept of fleecing works -- you can't fleece someone who knows whst's the what.)


megan walker - Jan 05, 2010 2:22:41 pm PST #12213 of 25501
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I'm sorta' amazed that a major retailer engaged in such a scam.

How are you surprised? It's just "rustproofing" for the 21st century.