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Polter-Cow - Jan 05, 2010 12:34:55 pm PST #12206 of 25501
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Thanks, Deena! I'll look into that. Unfortunately, as I suspected, I can't install it on my work computer, so the export remains a bit of a problem, especially since the ability to create new archives or add to existing archives has been disabled.


shrift - Jan 05, 2010 12:37:38 pm PST #12207 of 25501
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

What's a good program for running multiple IM accounts on a PC?

I use Pidgin: [link]


§ ita § - Jan 05, 2010 12:51:14 pm PST #12208 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

one of our shoppers was denied the price advertised for a specific model because only pre-optimized computers were available

Bingo! Happened to us with every model we decided we wanted. Bastards.


tommyrot - Jan 05, 2010 12:53:18 pm PST #12209 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Was that you you mentioned this before? The article rang a bell for me....

Anyway, hopefully all the bad publicity will learn them a lesson.


§ ita § - Jan 05, 2010 12:59:09 pm PST #12210 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, that was me and my sister getting hosed because I wasn't feeling up to the drive to Fry's. Never again. They have about 5 categories of poorly explained "optimisations" and just about everything we even looked at was bumped up in price by it. And when removing manufacturer crap leaves you with Best Buy icons on your desktop, they're not even pretending well.


tommyrot - Jan 05, 2010 1:01:28 pm PST #12211 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm sorta' amazed that a major retailer engaged in such a scam. (I mean, a scam this easy to expose.) Are they hurting financially, and this is a desperate strategy on their part to survive? Or was some corporate guy gonna lose his bonus if he didn't get sales back up?


Steph L. - Jan 05, 2010 2:02:06 pm PST #12212 of 25501
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Anyway, hopefully all the bad publicity will learn them a lesson.

Nah, BB is always on Consumerist's shit list, and nothing changes. Too many people who shop there don't even know the Consumerist exists, and they know so little about computers that they take BB's word for it that they need the "optimizations."

Which is what makes me the angriest -- that they cheerfully fleece people who don't know any better. (Well, I guess that's how the whole concept of fleecing works -- you can't fleece someone who knows whst's the what.)


megan walker - Jan 05, 2010 2:22:41 pm PST #12213 of 25501
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I'm sorta' amazed that a major retailer engaged in such a scam.

How are you surprised? It's just "rustproofing" for the 21st century.


tommyrot - Jan 05, 2010 3:01:06 pm PST #12214 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm just surprised that it's a major chain, and it's that blatant. It was a major corporate fuckup when Sears was paying commission to their auto mechanics (resulting in mechanics doing unnecessary work), or when Dominos promised 30 minute delivery or your pizza was free (resulting in managers pressuring their drivers to drive fast, which resulted in accidents). In both those cases, a corporate mistake just created conditions for employees in the local stores to fuck things up. This is worse, as it had to have been approved at a high level. This would be like Ford deciding all their cars would be rustproofed without including that cost in the advertised price, rather than individual dealers pulling this bait-and-switch. Except even then, rustproofing could be considered useful, which this Best Buy service is not.


Jessica - Jan 05, 2010 3:02:20 pm PST #12215 of 25501
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I helped my MiL buy a netbook there over Thanksgiving and didn't encounter any of that, but I guess there's not much "optimizing" you can do with a netbook anyway.