I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the twelfth century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophesy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.

Giles ,'Selfless'


Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

Please use spoiler font for new releases until after the weekend following release.


Volans - Jun 09, 2011 7:28:57 am PDT #3629 of 5059
move out and draw fire

Every once in a while a sentence comes along that makes me wonder how long ago I would not have understood it.

This.

Has this Doyle/Watson thing been around forever? I just heard about it the other day and now everyone is using it.

And this.

You could say that they defridged (defrosted?) her character

And this...or maybe Batgirl/Barbara was fridged but Oracle isn't a fridging?

You're taking away serious, earned gravitas for the character and the Batfamily storyline.

And this.


Tom Scola - Jun 09, 2011 2:24:58 pm PDT #3630 of 5059
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Blue Beetle being relaunched.


Steph L. - Jun 09, 2011 2:59:59 pm PDT #3631 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh, DC. You know how to get me to never leave you.

(That high-pitched noise is my Bobby Hill squee of joy.)


JZ - Jun 09, 2011 3:57:43 pm PDT #3632 of 5059
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Is that supposed to be Harley? Because THAT'S NOT HER.


Atropa - Jun 09, 2011 4:00:48 pm PDT #3633 of 5059
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

HARLEEN FRANCIS QUINZEL YOU GO PUT SOME PANTS ON RIGHT NOW, YOUNG LADY. And a blouse. And lace your damn corset properly.


Steph L. - Jun 09, 2011 4:47:49 pm PDT #3634 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Did anyone post this yet? (Looking at the time stamp, I think no.) Gail Simone talks about the Batgirl reboot: [link]


DavidS - Jun 09, 2011 5:25:25 pm PDT #3635 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Gail Simone talks about the Batgirl reboot:

An interesting conversation as she obviously wasn't keen on the reboot and losing Oracle and has decided to stay with the 'verse and do right by Babs as best she can.

I'm so very tired of DC's stunt reboots anyway. I don't like characters coming back from the dead. I think having narrative consequences is the only way to build a story.

That said, when you have a serial story with characters that exist in some kind of stasis for decades then it becomes almost impossible to work new stories on them.

But I prefer Gail's principle: "Don't negate."

And this is a huge negation. You don't have to lose all that narrative capital that's been built up. You can - as I mentioned before - take the Paul Dini route and keep all the good stuff and offload the bad stories.

That noted, I expect what will happen is this. They'll bring Barbara Gordon as Batgirl before the events of Killing Joke. And let her run for several years. And then she will become crippled but it won't be in a refrigerator episode. She'll be hurt doing something heroic and thus they'll be able to reclaim the Oracle narrative and excise the shitty begin.

But I don't know - they're being very coy about the canon after the reboot. I'm presuming this is not a healed Barbara, but a pre- or non- injured Barbara. That might not be the case, but I can't see how else they'd do a reboot. I guess they could have the Joker shoot her and then Super Science fix her.

It's still shitty. It's a bad move.

OTOH, DC's right that it will probably increase sales so they don't care.


Steph L. - Jun 09, 2011 5:39:08 pm PDT #3636 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I've been poking through other reboot articles on Newsarama, and I didn't realize there are huge rumors of reboot!Superman being a single dude. That feels gimmicky.

OTOH, if the reboot is making the characters younger, then it makes sense, timeline-wise.


Kalshane - Jun 09, 2011 6:34:46 pm PDT #3637 of 5059
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

HARLEEN FRANCIS QUINZEL YOU GO PUT SOME PANTS ON RIGHT NOW, YOUNG LADY. And a blouse. And lace your damn corset properly.

Yeah. I'm really not digging the new Harley Quinn.

And here I thought her outfits in the Batman: Arkham games were bad...

That interview with Gail Simone makes me feel a little better about the whole thing, though this still seems like a bad idea.

Also, what's up with everyone wearing black and red? First most of the Teen Titans, and now Nightwing.

Speaking of the Titans, who the heck is freaky cyborg-lizard chick in the lower left?


Atropa - Jun 09, 2011 7:36:43 pm PDT #3638 of 5059
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

And here I thought her outfits in the Batman: Arkham games were bad...

Gnnnng. Don't remind me.