Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

Please use spoiler font for new releases until after the weekend following release.


Consuela - May 01, 2009 8:20:30 pm PDT #2215 of 5059
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

As someone who is not a comics fan, I will admit I spent half an hour standing at B&N one day reading through the first volume of Y: the Last Man. If that's a datapoint you might find useful. Way more newbie-friendly than Sandman, I must say.


Fay - May 02, 2009 4:20:39 am PDT #2216 of 5059
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I think she tried a little but couldn't get into it. Or else she hasn't attempted it. But I know she's lamented that she can't get into what is often considered his greatest work.

Well, if she started with the first volume - it's not the best, and I don't like the artwork, or the colouring.

She'd probably be better dipping into one of the short story collections...God, I get the titles mixed up. Fables and Reflections, I think? Or Dream Country? Or am I mixing them up again?


Polter-Cow - May 02, 2009 5:33:35 am PDT #2217 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'd recommend Superman: Identity for someone who has a fondness for the character. Immonen's painting style in that might ease her past any objections to the comic format, and it's a great read.

Thanks, Matt! I'll see if my store has it.


le nubian - May 02, 2009 7:44:11 am PDT #2218 of 5059
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

P-C -

there is also a possibility your friend won't ever get into them.

I have a stack of Buffys that I need to read. I love the story, but it is the medium that works my nerves. I love to read. I love tv and movies. I don't really like images and text together. I suspect it has something to do with my wanting to fill in my own images when I'm reading or taking the images at face value in tv/film.


Polter-Cow - May 02, 2009 7:44:51 am PDT #2219 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

there is also a possibility your friend won't ever get into them.

Yeah, I know. Le sigh.


Laga - May 02, 2009 7:58:35 am PDT #2220 of 5059
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

if she started with the first volume - it's not the best, and I don't like the artwork, or the colouring.

ahh OK. Maybe I'll give it another shot.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 02, 2009 10:07:53 am PDT #2221 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

For what it's worth, I didn't get into Sandman until the second story arc either. Initially the art was too reminiscent of 1950s-era EC Comics for me to get into it. But "A Doll's House" and "Season of Mists" were mesmerizing.


Atropa - May 02, 2009 12:56:53 pm PDT #2222 of 5059
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Yeah, I think I started reading Sandman during the second story arc. But I do know that the first issue I read was "The Sound of her Wings".


Polter-Cow - May 02, 2009 3:23:52 pm PDT #2223 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So I have returned from the comic book store. Since Steph wants to know, here's what I got:

Blackest Night : I was sort of lost since it's clearly in-continuity and setting up some big new EVENT, but it was a decent issue. I had no idea there were so many different-colored Lanterns. Sheesh.

Savage Dragon : Fun, although I had no idea DC had a Daredevil before Marvel did. And, shit, Savage Dragon sure has had a crappy fucking time of it.

Love and Rockets : I was completely lost through it all and I just quit after a while. Not my thing, despite Killer's gigantic boobs.

Resurrection : This was actually really neat, and I want to pick up the old version for six bucks. And I may read the new series. Looks good so far.

Aliens/Predator : The Aliens story was nice, but the Predator story was meh.

I asked someone to recommend something for my friend, and when I said that I wanted something that would show her why you would write a story as a comic rather than as a book or movie, his eyes lit up, and he took me to the manga section and showed me Gon, which is the wordless tale of a cute little dinosaur. It was cheap, too. So I decided on that.


Steph L. - May 02, 2009 3:50:36 pm PDT #2224 of 5059
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Blackest Night : I was sort of lost since it's clearly in-continuity and setting up some big new EVENT, but it was a decent issue. I had no idea there were so many different-colored Lanterns. Sheesh.

The multitudes of different-colored Lanterns is totally new. The gist of the Blackest Night storyline is that the Black Lanterns are apparently resurrecting dead superheroes, but in a creepy corrupted awful way.

Yes, they're going to come back wrong.

Love and Rockets : I was completely lost through it all and I just quit after a while. Not my thing, despite Killer's gigantic boobs.

I haven't read it yet, because The Boy has it.

I also got Mercy Sparx, which made the mistake of opening with 2 pages of text-backstory, narrated by Mercy. The problem is that the backstory is fucking confusing, so I started reading not really sure of what the hell was going on.