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Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 11, 2009 4:28:18 pm PST #2065 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Frank, I more than half suspect that LA didn't get sucked into Hell, but rather just the folks with contracts at Wolfram & Hart did and the surroundings changed to look familiar to them.


victor infante - Jan 11, 2009 4:45:44 pm PST #2066 of 5059
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Frank, I more than half suspect that LA didn't get sucked into Hell, but rather just the folks with contracts at Wolfram & Hart did and the surroundings changed to look familiar to them.

Yeah, they've made a few comments that have indicated that not all is what's seen, including the psychic fish contacting his friends in Vegas, who had no idea what he was talking about when he told them about LA being in Hell.

Also, the BtVS stuff is set at LEAST a year after the angel stuff.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 11, 2009 4:51:43 pm PST #2067 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

SailAweigh - Jan 11, 2009 6:37:21 pm PST #2068 of 5059
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

who had no idea what he was talking about when he told them about LA being in Hell.

I get the feeling the LA we're seeing in Angel: AtF is like that subdivision that Gunn was living in where they kept cutting his heart out. Superficially LA, but actually some kind of demon dimension.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 12, 2009 5:55:40 am PST #2069 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Also, while I realize the Jossverse isn't exactly fair and equitable about what happens to people in earthly life, it has established that there are benevolent higher powers, and that the afterlife at least seems to be just. I don't see Wolfram & Hart being able to drag several million unwilling people (many of them innocent or virtuous) into hell all in a flash. We saw in "Reprise" that they're all about encouraging people to give in to their darker instincts with the eventual goal of hell on earth.


Glamcookie - Jan 13, 2009 6:46:05 am PST #2070 of 5059
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Interview excerpt with Brian K. Vaughan: [link]


Polter-Cow - Jan 13, 2009 7:11:26 am PST #2071 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Interesting! I didn't know there was a possibility of an Ex Machina movie. I don't know how any of those are going to turn out. I hope they're good?


Glamcookie - Jan 13, 2009 7:20:46 am PST #2072 of 5059
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Sounds like Runaways will be good - or at least the script will be since he's owning it. Y and Ex Machina not so much.


Steph L. - Jan 14, 2009 4:12:17 pm PST #2073 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Uh. I think DC just killed Batman. For real.

(For all values of "real" in the DC universe, where Superboy-Prime could PUNCH A HOLE IN REALITY and bring Jason Todd back from the dead.)

(Which means that Batman won't stay dead -- they brought back Superman; hell, they even brought back Barry Allen, whose death was supposed to be sacrosanct -- because there's no way DC will keep one of its Big Three, in the original incarnation (Bruce Wayne), dead.

The question is just -- how long until he comes back?

t edit Oh, and -- how DC did it? Pretty fucking KICKASS.


DavidS - Jan 18, 2009 6:47:08 pm PST #2074 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Tep, did you see IO9's thread about Batman RIP?

First comments:

I'd love to see the Joker go on a detective crusade to unravel the truth about Batman's "death." No one gets to kill Batman except the Joker, and certainly not a Superman villain!

I would buy that series in a heartbeat.

Seconded. I'd love to see the Joker's interrogation of suspects.