A ghost? What's the deal? Is every frat on this campus haunted? And if so, why do people keep coming to these parties, cause it's not the snacks.

Xander ,'Dirty Girls'


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§ ita § - Nov 28, 2008 11:03:25 pm PST #2025 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks, PC.


SailAweigh - Nov 29, 2008 4:23:52 am PST #2026 of 5059
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I've just got to get this out of the way about Buffy:

OMG, Buffy killed Willow!!!!

And,

Riley is part Twilight!!! Not really too surprised by that. After all, the military is involved. I don't care if they filled the Initiative caves in, collective stupidity never goes away. It's like the root system of that giant fungus under the midwest.

I'm still a little confused as to just why Future!Willow felt Buffy needed to be killed. I'm going to have to go back and reread all the Fray crossovers. The gap between issues has made things hazy. It's just not making sense to me.


Invisible Green - Nov 29, 2008 5:19:48 am PST #2027 of 5059

It's just not making sense to me.

Same here. I need to reread the whole story arc.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 29, 2008 6:22:02 am PST #2028 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Sail, I think you have the wrong person that Willow felt was in need of killing. She told Melika and her sister that to arrange events, but everything seemed designed to put Buffy in the position of having to kill her .


JenP - Nov 29, 2008 4:18:54 pm PST #2029 of 5059

My reading of that is the same as Matt's.


SailAweigh - Nov 29, 2008 5:33:28 pm PST #2030 of 5059
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I thought about that. It just seems kind of strange to me to arrange suicide by slayer. And why Buffy? Did Willow think Melaka couldn't do it? And how'd she end up evil, again! Aargh. Most of all, why put Buffy through that? Knowing she'd have to go back and face the still-live Willow?

There are just too many questions that I can't see any answers to from previous episodes and I don't know that they'll be answered in the future. Unless Joss plans to keep this running for a very long time.


JenP - Nov 29, 2008 5:47:04 pm PST #2031 of 5059

I figure we'll get the answer at some point - seems like that was far too much trouble to go to unless it had to be Buffy for some reason .


Frankenbuddha - Dec 01, 2008 3:14:47 am PST #2032 of 5059
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Okay, so that was Riley in the big reveal? I couldn't figure out if it was supposed to be or not, and meant to go back and check who Buffy was supposed to meet in New York (if they said who she was supposed to meet).

Among other reasons I was confused was that his speech patterns didn't read as Riley-ish to me at all.


Laga - Dec 02, 2008 12:04:18 pm PST #2033 of 5059
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

It sure looked like Riley to me.

I wonder if Buffy having to kill Willow had something to do with the spell Willow cast at the end of Seaon 7, and that Willow was connected to the slayer axe thingy and maybe only Buffy wielding it would be powerful enough to do Willow in.


Cashmere - Dec 04, 2008 10:51:12 am PST #2034 of 5059
Now tagless for your comfort.

I probably need to go back and reread the series because I'm confused.

Buffy met with Riley to get info on Twilight not realizing he's a member? The attack on the Scottish compound was Twilight and had nothing to do with the temporal rift?

Future!Evil!Willow needed Buffy to kill her with the Scythe, so she arranged the temporal rift, playing Fray, Harth and Buffy. That part makes sense.

Moreso than Riley being part of Twilight. How did he go from Happy Demon Hunter Guy to working with Twilight and Amy & Warren?