And remember, if you hurt her, I will beat you to death with a shovel.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

Please use spoiler font for new releases until after the weekend following release.


Steph L. - Jun 04, 2008 5:37:55 pm PDT #1590 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism

is *totally* from X-Men, and you KNOW he got that from hanging with Xander, which I love love LOVE!

It is? What is it from? I wasn't really sure what he meant.

(I'm hoping an actual X-Men fan can elaborate on my explanation, because I've only read Astonishing X-Men.) Anyway, "To me, my X-Men!" is a classic Professor Xavier phrase, which was repeated by Cyclops in AXM #23, when they pulled off a kickass switcheroo on the bad guys.

And what he meant was pretty much what he told Willow, which was (paraphrased), "Get your ass over here!"

I agree with you on the utter WTF-ness of the very existence of mecha-Dawn, but I was so damned amused by Andrew and his apotheosis of geekiness that I was willing to go handwavey.

Also, I didn't even realize that was Dracula. I had trouble telling him apart from the other main vampire dude.

All the flowy dark hair, right? I had to look a couple of times to be sure who was who, but then I realized that they were wearing different colored shirts, and so I could differentiate them then.

The fact that that part of the panels wasn't very detailed actually really worked for me.

And that stuff is really irritating to me.

I normally dislike it a lot. But there was something about how the lack of detail made the moment understated, and the understatedness had more emotional impact -- for me -- than any technicolor large-font panel could have had.

Seriously, I normally hate that stuff. It slid under my radar, though.


Steph L. - Jun 04, 2008 5:40:34 pm PDT #1591 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism

P-C, here's a better explanation of the X-Men thingie: victor infante "Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!" Nov 20, 2007 2:12:43 pm PST


Polter-Cow - Jun 04, 2008 5:57:38 pm PDT #1592 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

AXM #23, when they pulled off a kickass switcheroo on the bad guys.

Belatedly, I want to say that that was awesome. Because I was totally suspecting it, and it made a lot of sense. Go team. (And the revisited scene was really, really amusing. Oh, Kitty.)

(I don't want to spoil, but I also don't want to inappropriately use spoilerfont, so I'm being vague.)

All the flowy dark hair, right?

Right! On the first or second page, when Dracula tells Buffy she can save them, I was SO CONFUSED because I thought it was the other guy. I had to look really closely and then remember that Dracula was there to begin with.


Torque - Jun 04, 2008 6:08:55 pm PDT #1593 of 5059
Bad Wolf

I concur. I think I like the humor of this arc but not so much more. I love the bit at the end where Xander tells Drac to stop calling him manservant. Could Xander be becoming a little more hard like Wesley did?


Frankenbuddha - Jun 04, 2008 6:42:36 pm PDT #1594 of 5059
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Is Dracula the new Spike? I mean why is it OK for Drac to be alive and kicking (so to speak - dead and kicking?)? I guess once you've financed your operation with stolen loot, lots of things start to slide.

I mean, I'm cool with it, because I really enjoyed the arc of this, but I'm wondering what it means to be an evil evil vampire now.


Polter-Cow - Jun 04, 2008 7:08:31 pm PDT #1595 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, I had the same thought, Frank.

I guess once you've financed your operation with stolen loot, lots of things start to slide.

Wait, I thought that was just a hypothetical future vision thing.


Polter-Cow - Jun 04, 2008 8:47:30 pm PDT #1596 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My thoughts on Season 8.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 05, 2008 3:04:17 am PDT #1597 of 5059
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Wait, I thought that was just a hypothetical future vision thing.

I've never been 100% clear on whether those visions were things that had happened that they didn't want anyone else to know or things that might.


Steph L. - Jun 05, 2008 4:43:59 am PDT #1598 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Wait, I thought that was just a hypothetical future vision thing.

I've never been 100% clear on whether those visions were things that had happened that they didn't want anyone else to know or things that might.

They've referred to the stolen loot in another issue after the one in which it was introduced. I just can't remember which one. And now that the current issue also showed the green snake/serpent goddess/demon/whatever that we saw with Willow in the "stolen loot" issue, I'm think the fact that both scenarios were referred to in subsequent issues means that they were really real, not potentially real.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 05, 2008 6:21:16 am PDT #1599 of 5059
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm think the fact that both scenarios were referred to in subsequent issues means that they were really real, not potentially real.

I've always suspected that the heist was the issue that drove Giles and Buffy apart. They've never said that, but I could see him having a serious objection to that sort of thing.