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'Potential'


Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

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Polter-Cow - Feb 02, 2007 2:17:17 pm PST #124 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

You know, if he's not doing Wonder Woman, the dude needs to gett off his ass and do some friggin' thing (said respectfully, of course), because my world has been Joss-project-less for TOO FRIGGIN' LONG.

Well, he's been writing AXM and Runaways.

He got fired from his best shot at a franchise which he could leverage into other movies. If he'd done what Singer had done for X-Men or Raimi for Spider-Man or Nolan for Batman he'd be a freakin' mini-mogul this decade.

What do you think he did wrong that Singer/Raimi/Nolan did right?


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 02, 2007 2:40:42 pm PST #125 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Impossible to make an informed guess, but based on the motif of Joss' work in general maybe too much emphasis on feminist themes for studio heads that are very invested in putting teen male rears into seats via explosions and boobs? I suspect they were wanting something that would fit Jessica Alba type actresses and Joss was giving them something more akin to Elizabeth Cady Stanton in eagle insignia battle armor.


DavidS - Feb 02, 2007 3:27:02 pm PST #126 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What do you think he did wrong that Singer/Raimi/Nolan did right?

I don't think he had a bead on it the way he personally had on X-Men or many other comics he grew up with.

Wonder Woman - despite her long history - didn't really come into focus as something other than an icon until George Perez's run on her in the 80s. (Not counting the Emma Peel inspired powerless time in the early 70s, which I always liked.)

I think most of the best WW comics came out in the nineties or later and unless he was going to adapt The Hiketeia then he didn't have anything to work off of. She's an icon, but her core mission was sort of muddy until the last fifteen years.

So he was creating her from scratch except he's really hemmed in on all sides. And the canon wasn't as deep as others (like Batman or Superman) so he couldn't cherry pick the continuity for the best stuff (like the Diniverse cartoons did).

Nowadays I think she's a great character. But Joss is always going to be a Marvel guy, I think.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2007 3:46:00 pm PST #127 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think he had a bead on it the way he personally had on X-Men or many other comics he grew up with.

I don't think anyone has a bead on her moviewise. She's not as easy a translation as the icons, or as the X-Men. She's going to be redone for the screen, and when you're starting nearly from scratch...well, was the studio even starting from the same scratch?


Cashmere - Feb 03, 2007 1:53:49 am PST #128 of 5059
Now tagless for your comfort.

Joss isn't doing Wonder Woman.

Well...fuck.

that's all I've got.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 03, 2007 3:17:37 am PST #129 of 5059
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Well, he's been writing AXM and Runaways.

And involved with Buffy season 8.


Zenkitty - Feb 03, 2007 5:28:35 am PST #130 of 5059
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I'm not horribly disappointed; I'd much rather he concentrate on Goners. (Though of course he still may not.) I would, however, really like to see his script. Mainly because I want to know what he was planning to do with the silly invisible airplane and lasso of truth to make them not-silly.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 03, 2007 6:38:29 am PST #131 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

George Perez did a pretty good job of presenting the Lasso of Truth in non-silly fashion.

As for the invisible plane? yeah, I got nothin'.


§ ita § - Feb 03, 2007 3:19:24 pm PST #132 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was telling a friend that Joss was no longer on the WW project because of a difference of takes on the character. I told him I had no idea what Joss's unwanted take was, and he suggested "Lesbian?" so guilelessly I spat laughter.


Polter-Cow - Feb 03, 2007 4:03:28 pm PST #133 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

MTV.com has some more info on the story, including some bits on, yes, the invisible plane and magic lasso and such. Nothing revealing, but Joss wasn't going to toss 'em.