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Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

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CaBil - Jan 04, 2008 4:37:25 pm PST #1144 of 5059
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Actually, the primary purposes of the retcon was to undo MJ and Peter's marriage. Marvel editorial has been itching to undo that for a while, with the Parker Clone saga being an earlier attempt that went of the rails

It was just that while they were doing that, they decided to tidy some things back up, and sort of reset the character at the iconic ideal...

As for JMS, he didn't like the mechanism they used to do it, thought of it as sloppy writing. He debated taking his name off it, was convinced not to but had editorial share writing credit for it.


chrismg - Jan 04, 2008 6:50:56 pm PST #1145 of 5059
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Buffy #10:

Parker reference!

On the other hand, the whole Kennedy thing brought my suspension of disbelief crashing to the ground

Ef explaining what I'm talking about.


Laga - Jan 04, 2008 6:53:15 pm PST #1146 of 5059
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

You know I was so glad for that tiny scintilla of info we finally got about the thricewise I was able to forgive the rest of the book for making no sense whatsoever.


Steph L. - Jan 05, 2008 8:06:23 am PST #1147 of 5059
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I adored all the interaction between Xander and still-giant!Dawn and really loved the "Anywhere But Here" parts, because a well-done throwback to the show always makes me happy.

But the whole part about Bad Things We've Done -- the hell? So, did I read it correctly that Buffy and the Slayer army robbed some sort of vault to fund the Slayer army?

That's so whack-ass out of character that I don't even know where to start. I have a HUGE problem with that.


SailAweigh - Jan 05, 2008 10:58:25 am PST #1148 of 5059
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Steph, I think what Buffy and Willow were seeing were things that when they started watching hadn't happened, but once they were seen, they became part of their current "reality." Don't forget, the reality field (or whatever the heck they called it) was unstable. I think those visions were more possibilties, than realities, even if it seemed like in the moment.

I had no problem with the Willow/Kennedy parts. In fact, Willow saying she didn't want to have to choose between her and Buffy made me get all sniffly. I still don't like Kennedy, but I felt terrible for Willow.


Laga - Jan 05, 2008 11:58:55 am PST #1149 of 5059
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

man I never should have looked up "retcon" on Wikipedia. Now my head- she is all swimmy. I demand to know what is real and what isn't!


CaBil - Jan 05, 2008 4:10:35 pm PST #1150 of 5059
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Heh, wait until you get to stetcons and the such...


Laga - Jan 05, 2008 4:53:51 pm PST #1151 of 5059
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

OK I give up. Google says, "Did you mean to search for: stetsons?"


CaBil - Jan 06, 2008 7:54:35 am PST #1152 of 5059
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

A stetcon is when you undo a retcon. Derived from the editorial/proofreader term "stet", which is to let the previous version stand...


Laga - Jan 06, 2008 7:59:07 am PST #1153 of 5059
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Ah geez. I should have been able to figure that out. thanks.