So in addition to being annoyed and hurt, I have an underlying feeling of worry that she does seem to genuinely think that she is fat.

I just think it's so sad that this is all too common. I recently overhauled my wardrobe and was mentioning to a colleague that it was a bit hard to find clothes because I was now a 12-14 (i.e., the black hole of sizing--too big for "regular" clothes and too small for plus-size stores). She started telling me how she was sad that she was a "4" and no longer a "2". We're about the same height of 5' 8". She realized this was slightly insane, but concluded "we all have body issues." Um, not really. I just can't find clothes. Luckily, the whole conversation made me realize how grateful I was that that was my problem.

Um, not really. I just can't find clothes.

I solved this problem by getting bigger! Seriously, that was my healthiest size (I have been a lot of weights), both physically and mentally, but the thought of the no clothes at all thing makes me want to stick to a 16 or higher!

the thought of the no clothes at all thing makes me want to stick to a 16 or higher!

Sadly, the no-clothes thing is definitely my biggest motivator for getting back in shape.

Being late to work on the first work day of the year probably isn't the best idea ever, huh?

(i.e., the black hole of sizing--too big for "regular" clothes and too small for plus-size stores).

Totally the black hole!! But often awkward to discuss with people of other sizes -- I sometimes don't want to reveal my size to the skinny minnies, and it does seem like a slap in the face to the non-skinny minnies to say, "You're so lucky, only being able to shop at plus-size stores....."

Maybe this should go in the Music thread, but: Morrisey signs notes with smiley faces: [link]

I dunno. Running late this morning meant that the cops pulled over the 4 cars ahead of me in their speed trap and I didn't get stopped.

And now I know they're operating a speed trap there and will drive accordingly.

I was so annoyed when I lost over 100 lbs, was down to a 14/16 and STILL had to shop in the women's sections.

I know the correct answer to this was NOT to gain some of the weight back...K-Bug asked if I wanted to do WW with her. Since she is still 16, she would need a doctor's note to officially register. While she is not fat like I was at her age, she is not a skinny minnie either...I just feel awful that she considers herself in need of WW.

I first did WW when I was 12. It worked, since I did lose about 25 pounds that summer, but I felt so completely out of it since everyone else in the meetings were 25 and over that I begged my mom to let me quit when school started up again. That was the last time I was below 200 pounds.

I just think it's so sad that this is all too common. I recently overhauled my wardrobe and was mentioning to a colleague that it was a bit hard to find clothes because I was now a 12-14 (i.e., the black hole of sizing--too big for "regular" clothes and too small for plus-size stores).

In defense of the people who think they're fat, but aren't...I stayed much trimmer, when I fretted over five pounds, and when I felt "fat" if I gained five pounds. It was probably mentally healthier to kill that thinking, but 5 pounds slides into 10 slides into 30, all too easily. I don't get fretting about it in front of someone who is bigger, though. Private fretting is the way to go.

In defense of the people who think they're fat, but aren't...I stayed much trimmer, when I fretted over five pounds, and when I felt "fat" if I gained five pounds. It was probably mentally healthier to kill that thinking, but 5 pounds slides into 10 slides into 30, all too easily.

I think that's partly why they now say that you are much more successful watching your weight if you weigh yourself every day, rather than once as week, as was formerly recommended.