(i.e., the black hole of sizing--too big for "regular" clothes and too small for plus-size stores).

Totally the black hole!! But often awkward to discuss with people of other sizes -- I sometimes don't want to reveal my size to the skinny minnies, and it does seem like a slap in the face to the non-skinny minnies to say, "You're so lucky, only being able to shop at plus-size stores....."

Maybe this should go in the Music thread, but: Morrisey signs notes with smiley faces: [link]

I dunno. Running late this morning meant that the cops pulled over the 4 cars ahead of me in their speed trap and I didn't get stopped.

And now I know they're operating a speed trap there and will drive accordingly.

I was so annoyed when I lost over 100 lbs, was down to a 14/16 and STILL had to shop in the women's sections.

I know the correct answer to this was NOT to gain some of the weight back...K-Bug asked if I wanted to do WW with her. Since she is still 16, she would need a doctor's note to officially register. While she is not fat like I was at her age, she is not a skinny minnie either...I just feel awful that she considers herself in need of WW.

I first did WW when I was 12. It worked, since I did lose about 25 pounds that summer, but I felt so completely out of it since everyone else in the meetings were 25 and over that I begged my mom to let me quit when school started up again. That was the last time I was below 200 pounds.

I just think it's so sad that this is all too common. I recently overhauled my wardrobe and was mentioning to a colleague that it was a bit hard to find clothes because I was now a 12-14 (i.e., the black hole of sizing--too big for "regular" clothes and too small for plus-size stores).

In defense of the people who think they're fat, but aren't...I stayed much trimmer, when I fretted over five pounds, and when I felt "fat" if I gained five pounds. It was probably mentally healthier to kill that thinking, but 5 pounds slides into 10 slides into 30, all too easily. I don't get fretting about it in front of someone who is bigger, though. Private fretting is the way to go.

In defense of the people who think they're fat, but aren't...I stayed much trimmer, when I fretted over five pounds, and when I felt "fat" if I gained five pounds. It was probably mentally healthier to kill that thinking, but 5 pounds slides into 10 slides into 30, all too easily.

I think that's partly why they now say that you are much more successful watching your weight if you weigh yourself every day, rather than once as week, as was formerly recommended.

(i.e., the black hole of sizing--too big for "regular" clothes and too small for plus-size stores).

So much the black hole. Is verra annoying.

While she is not fat like I was at her age, she is not a skinny minnie either...I just feel awful that she considers herself in need of WW.

Well... it does help instill healthy eating habits & awareness. If she's looking at it that way, that's not so bad. But I don't think she's overweight at all.

In defense of the people who think they're fat, but aren't...I stayed much trimmer, when I fretted over five pounds, and when I felt "fat" if I gained five pounds. It was probably mentally healthier to kill that thinking, but 5 pounds slides into 10 slides into 30, all too easily.

For me, I certainly stayed trimmer than I am now that way, but man, I hated feeling like that. It required more vigilance for less gain than I felt was necessary. And I have been, in my adult life, just about every size from a 6 petite to a pushing 20W (now), so I feel both like I have been in both spots and can relate to both being thin and fat to a big hypocrite for complaining about other people complaining when once I was the slender one.

I have done WW before, and I don't look at it as a diet, but a way to built healthy habits. That is how I've always described it to the kids too - so hopefully that is what she is thinking about.

Based on the charts and BMI and all that stuff, she is technically overweight...but really, the kid is a size 7 and athletic. She is healthy. Then again, based on her genetic code from DH and me, the likelihood of her gaining as she gets older is VERY high, so learning good habits is good.

Being a parent is HARD.

really, the kid is a size 7 and athletic.

!!!!

I admit that this is a hot-button issue for me, so I'll just say this and (hopefully) be done: that is SO not "fat."

Of course, learning good habits is ALWAYS a good thing.