Shh! I kinda wanna hear me talking right now!

Glory ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2006 4:13:22 pm PST #8170 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But fuck me, it sucks.

I've blathered on quite a bit about pain, but Cashmere has just summed it up quite tidily.


brenda m - Dec 26, 2006 4:16:34 pm PST #8171 of 10007
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That was until I developed the herniated disc with the lovely chronic back pain. It's one thing to know there's a finish line to the pain. It's another to look down the road and not know if there is an end to it.

Oh yes, that exactly. I've always been kind of a stoic - I have a very high tolerance (judging from my dentist's reaction, if nothing else), I can handle sharp, hard pain. The ongoing, no end in sight thing, no matter how even if it's not as intense (or god forbid, if it is)? I never got that before, and it's as close a definition of hell as I can get.


Allyson - Dec 26, 2006 5:16:05 pm PST #8172 of 10007
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't tell you so, ita, but I think about you, and worry about you every single day. Sometimes I'm furious that there's nothing that can be done, like, where is Dr. House with the magical cure in act four? Mostly I just worry.


quester - Dec 26, 2006 5:20:13 pm PST #8173 of 10007
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

ita, I get very bad headaches from time to time. I have fibromyalgia, so chronic pain is a constant. New pains tend to be acute, even when they are minor. But, DAMN girl! I am baffled and in awe of the fact that you can function at all with your migraines! You must be superwoman!


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2006 5:43:13 pm PST #8174 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not superwoman so much as a few steps away from being a wreck. And sometimes when no one's looking, I let myself be just that--a wreck.

I do most of what has to be done, and mostly I do it okay. This has to stop sometime, because there's a basic erosion I don't know how to shore up. But for now I can work around it.

Allyson, I can't tell you not to worry, and I don't know what I could say that would reassure you short of "It doesn't hurt." I will be very glad to tell you that when it is the case. But don't let it bring you down, or anything. A nice casual worry, over a hot drink or something--that works.


libkitty - Dec 26, 2006 6:04:47 pm PST #8175 of 10007
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

It kind of greys out all the color from your life, you know?

I, too, have fibromyalgia. I used to have migraines about as often as ita does now, but fortunately medication keeps about 90% from happening any more. I am constantly amazed by the amount of pain ita and Cashmere and others here endure, while manageing to make pleasant and interesting conversation and carry on interesting and fulfilling lives. I don't think I'm that witty even when I don't have a migraine.

Pain is kind of boggling. It sucks, but without it we die. We're more and more advanced with painkillers, but people and their doctors are afraid to use them. And even with the advances, they still can't relieve ita's migraines or Cashmere's back or brenda's mom. Indeed, it sucks.


Ginger - Dec 26, 2006 6:51:46 pm PST #8176 of 10007
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Happy birthday, Jesse and Theodosia!


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 26, 2006 8:16:54 pm PST #8177 of 10007
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Whenever I think about migraine sufferers like ita or my mom (prior to menopause, which helped tremendously), I'm very thankful that my migraines are mostly baby ones that respond to over-the-counter drugs and rarely last more than a day. The idea that the worst headache I've ever had would be a mild one to folks who suffer them much more frequently is appalling.


Cass - Dec 26, 2006 9:33:34 pm PST #8178 of 10007
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Gerald Ford died and I am sputtering that the obit I read called it the Betty Ford Clinic instead of Center. I feel I am taking the wrong things from this news.


beth b - Dec 26, 2006 11:03:32 pm PST #8179 of 10007
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Well, the SF Chronicle is saying Center. So someone is getting things right.