Mal: So we run. Nandi: I understand, Captain Reynolds. You have your people to think of, same as me. And this ain't your fight. Mal: Don't believe you do understand, Nandi. I said 'we run'. We.

'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Dec 26, 2006 2:41:15 pm PST #8142 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Thanks, y'all!

Happy birthday, Theodosia!! I thought of you this morning.

I had a good birthday including breakfast with family friends and running into a friend at the airport. Now I'm on the sofa with my cat, gorging myself on candy. I can't believe I have to go to work tomorrow.


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2006 2:48:41 pm PST #8143 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My finger hurts. It hurts a great deal much of the time. When it is manipulated, it's some of the worst pain I've ever felt, and certainly the worst I've submitted myself to.

I sign up for pain, or the risk of pain very often. It's something I do like to avoid, but I don't like to fear pain. I will bear much of it without...without flinching. I complain because, well, because I'm tired. I get tired of not flinching or crying or breaking things or screaming. So I complain then. It lets a little steam off.

But the pain is there every day. So sometimes it's not complaining, so much as explaining. That I do a lot, and it makes me self-conscious. But, fuck, it hurts.


brenda m - Dec 26, 2006 2:49:01 pm PST #8144 of 10007
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

My mother had awful migraines on a very regular basis. They got so painful and so frequent that her meds were running out all the time and she kept having to ask her doctor for more. He totally dismissed her, decided that she was taking too much medication, and determined that the solution was to cut her off entirely.

This would be roughly two months before the Stage IV glioblastoma erupted and changed all our lives.

I have so much anger still at this fuckhead. Her tumours were so bad - her surgeons were aghast at how fast they grew back once they'd been surgically removed - that the end wouldn't have been changed. But what she suffered during those couple of months, and what we all lost by not knowing we were losing her when she was still "normal" mentally and physically - I'll never forgive that.

And I'm not saying he should have been psychic. But when a long term patient, a woman who was a scientist herself, who'd done extensive research on pain management, who knew more about brain chemistry than he did himself - when she reported a sudden, dramatic increase in the intensity and frequency of her pain, he was utterly dismissive.

[Umm, yeah. That's a rant that's been coming on for a while in this whole pain discussion - I almost posted and didn't about four times today. Longer - I'm starting to get an idea of why I reacted so strongly to that ass in the NY Times last week, I think.]


§ ita § - Dec 26, 2006 2:50:59 pm PST #8145 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, brenda. I'm glad you didn't hold back. That's a righteous anger there.


quester - Dec 26, 2006 2:53:08 pm PST #8146 of 10007
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

brenda, this is a rant-friendly place. So sorry about your mother.


Jesse - Dec 26, 2006 2:53:39 pm PST #8147 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So, I mostly skipped people's other posts on this topic, so forgive me if it seems like I'm dismissing anyone else, but... holy SHIT, brenda. That's horrifying.

My family and I spent a lot of time this weekend being grateful for our relative health, and man, it's the truth. (My grandmother isn't doing so hot, but she's 87, is still really pretty active, and has had a damn good ride.)


Tom Scola - Dec 26, 2006 2:53:56 pm PST #8148 of 10007
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Happy Birthday Jesse!

Happy Birthday Theodosia!


brenda m - Dec 26, 2006 2:53:59 pm PST #8149 of 10007
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

But the pain is there every day. So sometimes it's not complaining, so much as explaining. That I do a lot, and it makes me self-conscious. But, fuck, it hurts.

ita, I think about you a lot and about what you go through - I had a long period of severe recurring back pain (still nothing like Steph's, or what you have with your migraines, I'd guess) and I could not believe how the pain - and the unrelievability of it - just overtook my entire brain. Give me acute over constant any day. And with what I was just saying about my mom - I feel so bad that I never really understood what those migraines did to her. I always knew she was one of the strongest women I've ever known; I had no idea how strong. I just weep to think about how she pushed on through so much for so long, and we never really got it.


sarameg - Dec 26, 2006 3:00:45 pm PST #8150 of 10007

brenda, that is truly horrible and worth a lot of directed rage. And ita, your just being tired of the explaining (and the pain) too.

Even when I'm having the milder cramps, I'm always a little startled when they lift 6 hours later and I realize how foggy I've been. I may think I'm all there, but I'm not.

Speaking of pain (to be irreverent,) you'd think putting up a shelf involved the loss of limbs. My dad is a champion curser. And easily led to them.


beth b - Dec 26, 2006 3:02:49 pm PST #8151 of 10007
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

brenda - that's horrid.

and the problem with pain- knowing how bad it is. The person suffering knows it is bad , but how bad? The doctor doesn't have any way to tell how the paitent is feeling. and pain management is still a black art. not everything works for everyone - somethings need time to work and sometimes you need to combind things...