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Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Dec 26, 2006 7:25:43 am PST #8089 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So, are people more likely to discount someone's pain if the person is a woman?

Yes. Women complain about every little thing, didn't you know? Unlike men, who are naturally inclined to handle even the most intense pain with dignified stoicism.


Allyson - Dec 26, 2006 7:26:09 am PST #8090 of 10007
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Who gets Ruby?

Ruby is an obligation to everyone but me. So it's less like gifting her and more like adding a poop machine to someone's life.

Who amongst you would take her?


Fred Pete - Dec 26, 2006 7:31:16 am PST #8091 of 10007
Ann, that's a ferret.

Who amongst you would take her?

Well, I think Marie is becoming disturbed at being the only female in the house....

Unfortunately, there are distance factors to consider.


DavidS - Dec 26, 2006 7:31:46 am PST #8092 of 10007
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So, are people more likely to discount someone's pain if the person is a woman?

I think this has actually been proved with some studies. Pain management is an interesting subject in the medical world. From hanging around with medical students in my youth, I can vouch that a doctor's perspective on pain is a bit dismissive. Also, they have their own scale of what's really painful and most of us are unlikely to have an injury or condition or receive a treatment that's going to ping a doctor's top ten. I do remember my ex (one of the medical students) saying it was instructive to get an IV again and remember, "Oh yeah. Those are uncomfortable."

But I think things have gotten better. Certainly access to trigger morphine type devices have had a big impact.


shrift - Dec 26, 2006 7:32:56 am PST #8093 of 10007
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

So, are people more likely to discount someone's pain if the person is a woman?

Yeah, and I believe there have been studies about it. I mean, we can't even handle cramps without complaining, right? No matter how debilitating that pain actually is.

I usually wait until I'm in "feels like someone's stabbing me with a hot knife" pain, and I know it's partly because of all those patronizing doctors and dentists I've had over the years.


Trudy Booth - Dec 26, 2006 7:33:55 am PST #8094 of 10007
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Yes. Women complain about every little thing, didn't you know? Unlike men, who are naturally inclined to handle even the most intense pain with dignified stoicism.

Its amazing how that notion survives since women, you know, give birth.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 26, 2006 7:34:03 am PST #8095 of 10007
What is even happening?

Allyson, won't anyone with a car be home before you're in the murder-stage of a nic-fit?

So, are people more likely to discount someone's pain if the person is a woman?

I was asked, by a labor and delivery nurse, why I was crying, when I was in the transition stage of labor.

I didn't kill her.

I'm still waiting for a monument to be erected in my honor.


juliana - Dec 26, 2006 7:38:34 am PST #8096 of 10007
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

So, are people more likely to discount someone's pain if the person is a woman?

I think this has actually been proved with some studies. Pain management is an interesting subject in the medical world.

Which is interesting, because hasn't it also been proven that women have a higher tolerance for pain than men?

For me, personally, I know that I'm highly sensitive to pain, but I can endure a hell of a lot and will only go to the doctor if it is truly debilitating. (I remember the dentist who did my root canal after the accident looking at the root, asking me again what the pain level was, and when I said 8, he said most people would characterize the level of inflammation at a 12.)


tommyrot - Dec 26, 2006 7:42:43 am PST #8097 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Which is interesting, because hasn't it also been proven that women have a higher tolerance for pain than men?

I think so....


SailAweigh - Dec 26, 2006 7:47:18 am PST #8098 of 10007
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Happy Birthday, Jesse and Theodosia!

I know one of the reasons I stay with my current doctor is that when I say I'm in pain, she believes me, instantly. It's funny that most of the doctors I've had who were the most dismissive of my pain were women. So, I was really glad to find one who wasn't.