Mick Jagger and David Bowie are dancing on my TV - it's the best x-mas ever!
A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend.
Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
tommyrot - Dec 22, 2006 5:09:08 pm PST #7854 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Sean K - Dec 22, 2006 5:14:47 pm PST #7855 of 10007
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I agree with this. We rarely hear anything about the Pagan origins of our Christmas traditions. It's like a war on Juleltid.
I'm with Rick on this one. For all the talk of the "real meaning and origins of Christmas," just once I'd like to see it included that Christmas was the Yule or midwinter celebration long before it was Christmas, and when the pagans and other rabble refused to quit celebrating it, the church decided that was as good a time as any for a birthday party and BOOM. Everybody's now celebrating the birth of Christ with their midwinter festival they didn't want to give up.
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 22, 2006 5:15:42 pm PST #7856 of 10007
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
One of the energy generating thingies (magnetron?) in my microwave burnt out. The others still work. Can I get away with using it until after the holiday rush? Or is it dangerous; should stop using it now?
OK, 'fess up. Who asked for a directional microwave Death Ray for Christmas?
Scrappy - Dec 22, 2006 5:18:09 pm PST #7857 of 10007
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I have trouble with teaching the origin of one holiday and not the other, but I can see why the teacher did it. I bet if you asked the kids about the origins of Christmas, 95% of the non-Christian kids would know the Nativity story. If you asked about the origins of Hannukah, 95% of the non-Jewish kids wouldn't know it.
Allyson - Dec 22, 2006 5:21:45 pm PST #7858 of 10007
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Other kids used to ask me what the name of my god was.
In fairness, their CCD classes blew, because they thought I was being a jerk by telling them jesus was a jew.
Heh. True, when you're a religious minority (even with the roasted pig) I think you're hyper aware of the majority's beliefs.
Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2006 5:30:59 pm PST #7859 of 10007
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I'm with Rick on this one. For all the talk of the "real meaning and origins of Christmas," just once I'd like to see it included that Christmas was the Yule or midwinter celebration long before it was Christmas, and when the pagans and other rabble refused to quit celebrating it, the church decided that was as good a time as any for a birthday party and BOOM. Everybody's now celebrating the birth of Christ with their midwinter festival they didn't want to give up.
Is that unknown at all anymore? Its why Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate. It was taught to me in church growing up a brazillian years ago (granted, a pretty intellectual church). Even Christian people who don't know where, say, Christmas trees are from know that they aren't in the bible in any way.
Sorkin dropping that "bomb" made my eyes roll so hard they hurt.
Sean K - Dec 22, 2006 5:33:35 pm PST #7860 of 10007
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Sorkin dropping that "bomb" made my eyes roll so hard they hurt.
S60? I stopped a while ago.
Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2006 5:35:02 pm PST #7861 of 10007
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
My Bradley Whitford love keeps me coming back for more.
§ ita § - Dec 22, 2006 5:56:59 pm PST #7862 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Is that unknown at all anymore?
Yes. It's as good a guess as any that trappings of various Christian holidays can be traced back past Christianity itself, but I'm pretty sure if I did a quick poll, the details of what Christmas ate would be pretty foggy for many.
Strega - Dec 22, 2006 6:02:58 pm PST #7863 of 10007
Oh, gosh, thanks for all the birthday wishes, everyone! And [drumroll] I got a Roomba! Woo!
And it should be all charged up around the time a friend comes over tomorrow night, so maybe we can develop a drinking game based on watching it crash around my living room.
I also got Arrested Development S3, and Brisco County. And tried to get my nephew to say "Happy Cephalopodmas." I should have just gone with "Squidmas," instead.
I'm not sure it's true that for most of the country, Christmas is divorced from religion. It is among most of the people I know, but most of the people I know are suburban coast-dwellers. And I feel like we did get some token research assignments about the origins of traditions like Christmas trees, Santa Claus, etc. in elementary school, but I went to school in the east coast suburbs in an area with a significant Jewish population. I know we did at least one "story of Chanukah" pageant along with the obligatory singing of out-of-tune Christmas carols.
In conclusion: Roomba!