Eh. I love you both, but you're both so full of shit, your eyes are brown.
Slay-er? Chosen One. She who hangs out a lot in cemeteries? You're kidding. Ask around. Look it up: Slayer comma The.
Buffy ,'Showtime'
Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Topic!Cindy - Dec 22, 2006 1:23:32 pm PST #7824 of 10007
What is even happening?
Jessica - Dec 22, 2006 1:26:59 pm PST #7825 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Teaching the story of the oil is pretty much the same as teaching Santa. IMO. It's the magical kiddie version of the origin story, existing solely because "oh fuck, we missed Sukkot" just doesn't make a very good legend.
DavidS - Dec 22, 2006 1:29:36 pm PST #7826 of 10007
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Eh. I love you both, but you're both so full of shit, your eyes are brown.
I'm not sure which of my assertions is shitty.
This part...
Too much litigation, too many factions.
Was just concurring with your point that they're a'scared.
This point...
Besides, Christmas is kind of divorced from its origins for much of the country. I'm not sure of the numbers, but for a lot of people it's more of a cultural than religious event. It is for me anyway.
Is pretty well qualified as a personal opinion, with many mealy-mouthed qualifiers.
Typo Boy - Dec 22, 2006 1:33:10 pm PST #7827 of 10007
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
One of the energy generating thingies (magnetron?) in my microwave burnt out. The others still work. Can I get away with using it until after the holiday rush? Or is it dangerous; should stop using it now?
Trudy Booth - Dec 22, 2006 1:50:12 pm PST #7828 of 10007
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Teaching the story of the oil is pretty much the same as teaching Santa. IMO. It's the magical kiddie version of the origin story, existing solely because "oh fuck, we missed Sukkot" just doesn't make a very good legend.
Isn't the origin of Chanukkah that the oil lasted eight days and that's the miracle we celebrate?
The origin of Christmas has nothing to do with Santa.
Theodosia - Dec 22, 2006 1:57:06 pm PST #7829 of 10007
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Typo, you might try asking about the magnetron over in Buffistatech. Unfortunately, I get them confused with Magneto, so I'm not of much help.
DavidS - Dec 22, 2006 1:59:22 pm PST #7830 of 10007
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Unfortunately, I get them confused with Magneto, so I'm not of much help.
Keep them away from your Titanium Man. That's all I got.
§ ita § - Dec 22, 2006 2:00:44 pm PST #7831 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The origin of Christmas has nothing to do with Santa.
The meaning of Christmas (sez this purist) has nothing to do with him at all.
I'm reasonably grinchy. I exchange gifts with my immediate family if we're spending the day together (and we strive to, but don't sweat it if we can't), and with a friend or two, depending. There is some special food, and it's a day where not much is to get done.
It's purely cultural for me. And not rigidly observed.
I dig the religious significance of Christmas. I'm just overwhelmed by the Santa and the elves and the snow imagery and the songs that have nothing to do with Jesus. I can sometimes make it as far as a tree, but then I'm done.
Teaching Santa is dumb to me unless you're teaching the evolution from St. Nick, at which point you've touched religion anyway.
Jessica - Dec 22, 2006 2:08:31 pm PST #7832 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
No, the origin of Hanukkah is that the Maccabees missed Sukkot because of the war, and so they had it in winter instead. People really liked the idea of *two* weeklong festivals every year, so it stuck.
Narrator - Dec 22, 2006 2:16:32 pm PST #7833 of 10007
The evil is this way?
Teaching Santa is dumb to me unless you're teaching the evolution from St. Nick, at which point you've touched religion anyway.
Now you've done it. You've gone and put "evolution" and "religion" in the same sentence. That's like matter/anti-matter. We're all gonna fall into some black hole and IT WILL ALL BE YOUR FAULT.