Angel: Just admit it: you think you're gonna ride in, save the day, and sweep Buffy off her--Spike: Like you're not thinking the same thing. Angel: I'm already seeing somebody. Spike: What, dog girl?

'The Girl in Question'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Dec 21, 2006 7:51:08 am PST #7395 of 10007
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Political question inspired by living in the reddest of states:

Can Hillary Clinton be elected president? In Utah, the great past-time after BYU vs. U of U football is badmouthing anyone with the name of Clinton. I know there are people who have the knee-jerk reaction that Clinton=Antichrist (or at least the advance guard for the AntiChrist). They would rather vote for bin Laden, I think, rather than a Clinton. Is this point of view apparent in other parts of the country?


DavidS - Dec 21, 2006 7:56:32 am PST #7396 of 10007
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Can Hillary Clinton be elected president?

I don't think so. Talk about mobilizing the base.

I want Gore/Barack (Alobama).

Run, Al, Run!


msbelle - Dec 21, 2006 8:03:31 am PST #7397 of 10007
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

UGH. I'm moving my iTunes and all pictures to a hard drive so as to free up much needed space on my iBook. No idea if there was a better way to do this, but just moving the iTunes app and then the folder resukted in my iTunes library in the app being empty. odd that. so now I pulled the folder of songs into the library in the app and it is copying them all over. I already had wait through the initial copy song by song of the folder from internal HD to external HD. grrr.


Laura - Dec 21, 2006 8:04:12 am PST #7398 of 10007
Our wings are not tired.

Can Hillary Clinton be elected president?

I don't think she can take Florida. I'm in a pretty blue area, but I still hear a lot of Hillary hate. The Dems know they have me (and my like) already, so they need to pick a candidate with wider support. It is still early. Lots of time for candidates to make big mistakes. The final candidate may not even be on the radar yet.


Jessica - Dec 21, 2006 8:07:06 am PST #7399 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The thing about Hillary, though, is that she is a really good campaigner. She's not good at being a principled human being, but she does know how to win elections.

(And she's been practicing on the upstate NY red counties -- picked up huge numbers of votes there in a race she could have won sitting at home twiddling her thumbs.)

I think she could surprise people. I'm not sure I want her to, but there is something to be said for having a Dem candidate whose one strength is getting elected.


Nutty - Dec 21, 2006 8:08:17 am PST #7400 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I find Hillary Clinton tiresome and carpetbaggy and rather an opportunist. However, I know a lot of people who are on the Clinton train wherever it leads.

I do think that most people love her or hate her, which, at this stage, name recognition is a good thing. However, when it comes to a November election, "I recognize you and would like to stake you to an anthill" is not the kind of recognition that people are going for.


Sean K - Dec 21, 2006 8:09:58 am PST #7401 of 10007
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I, personally, would be proud of a President Obama, or a President H. Clinton.

I don't think either of them will ever be president. In Hillary's case, the only person the rabid right wing hates more than Bill Clinton, is Hillary. In Obama's case, I quite simply don't believe he'd live through the campaign, as sad as that makes me. There's too many racist fuckheads in this country, and a disproportionally large cross section of said fuckheads own guns.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 21, 2006 8:10:41 am PST #7402 of 10007
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Can Hillary Clinton be elected president?

I don't think so. Talk about mobilizing the base

What I don't get is why someone as smart as Hilary seems to be thinks that she can. I keep hoping it will turn out that her and Bill are playing rope-a-dope with the Republicans (e.g. keeping them busy concentrating on Hilary while someone else takes the lead for the Dems), but I suspect this is either an ego thing on Hilary's part, or one of those cases where they are being tone-deaf politically speaking (a la gays in the military being the first initiative Bill tried, and failed, to get traction on, or the health care debacle).


Nutty - Dec 21, 2006 8:11:20 am PST #7403 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Now the funny part would be a (let's just pretend) three-way race between Obama, H. Clinton, and Mitt Romney. The prejudiced people wouldn't know whom not to vote for!!


Laura - Dec 21, 2006 8:11:59 am PST #7404 of 10007
Our wings are not tired.

I have mixed feelings about her as a candidate. She is a very good candidate in that she is unlikely to do the dumb stuff that gets you lots of bad press. No doubt a good fund raiser and gets the crowds. I don't know how her numbers are with women in the red and purple states. A lot of people really don't like her.