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'Out Of Gas'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sean K - Dec 21, 2006 8:09:58 am PST #7401 of 10007
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I, personally, would be proud of a President Obama, or a President H. Clinton.

I don't think either of them will ever be president. In Hillary's case, the only person the rabid right wing hates more than Bill Clinton, is Hillary. In Obama's case, I quite simply don't believe he'd live through the campaign, as sad as that makes me. There's too many racist fuckheads in this country, and a disproportionally large cross section of said fuckheads own guns.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 21, 2006 8:10:41 am PST #7402 of 10007
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Can Hillary Clinton be elected president?

I don't think so. Talk about mobilizing the base

What I don't get is why someone as smart as Hilary seems to be thinks that she can. I keep hoping it will turn out that her and Bill are playing rope-a-dope with the Republicans (e.g. keeping them busy concentrating on Hilary while someone else takes the lead for the Dems), but I suspect this is either an ego thing on Hilary's part, or one of those cases where they are being tone-deaf politically speaking (a la gays in the military being the first initiative Bill tried, and failed, to get traction on, or the health care debacle).


Nutty - Dec 21, 2006 8:11:20 am PST #7403 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Now the funny part would be a (let's just pretend) three-way race between Obama, H. Clinton, and Mitt Romney. The prejudiced people wouldn't know whom not to vote for!!


Laura - Dec 21, 2006 8:11:59 am PST #7404 of 10007
Our wings are not tired.

I have mixed feelings about her as a candidate. She is a very good candidate in that she is unlikely to do the dumb stuff that gets you lots of bad press. No doubt a good fund raiser and gets the crowds. I don't know how her numbers are with women in the red and purple states. A lot of people really don't like her.


DavidS - Dec 21, 2006 8:13:08 am PST #7405 of 10007
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Well, Dems, who do you want to run?

Al Gore
Barack Obama
John Edwards
Hilary Clinton
Other?


Frankenbuddha - Dec 21, 2006 8:13:48 am PST #7406 of 10007
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Now the funny part would be a (let's just pretend) three-way race between Obama, H. Clinton, and Mitt Romney. The prejudiced people wouldn't know whom not to vote for!!

Heh, this just reminded me of a Bloom County where Milo proposed a Jesse Jackson/Jesse Helms ticket - the alienate everybody campaign.


Connie Neil - Dec 21, 2006 8:15:02 am PST #7407 of 10007
brillig

I could see Hilary throwing her support behind Obama, though that would still taint Obama in the eyes of the right-wing jihadists.

Here in Utah, Romney is considered the Great White Hope, unsurprisingly. Is his Mormonism an issue in the rest of the country?

To be honest, I could support McCain. I'd like Gore, now that I hear him without the clutter, but if worst came to worst, I could deal with McCain.


bon bon - Dec 21, 2006 8:16:33 am PST #7408 of 10007
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Polls like this are one reason people are getting serious about Hillary. I don't think the story is how much people hate her anymore, and I'm certain that she and her advisors do not consider her a stalking horse. She is serious.


DavidS - Dec 21, 2006 8:16:54 am PST #7409 of 10007
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

To be honest, I could support McCain.

Not the way he's been sucking cock on the far right in the last couple years. No fucking way. He'd have to put a fairly conservative member on the Supreme Court during his term. Also, he wants to add more troops in Iraq. I don't think that's going to work.


Laura - Dec 21, 2006 8:19:16 am PST #7410 of 10007
Our wings are not tired.

What I don't get is why someone as smart as Hilary seems to be thinks that she can. I keep hoping it will turn out that her and Bill are playing rope-a-dope with the Republicans

I certainly do not have the power urge that one would need to be president, so I can't begin to guess Hillary's mind. IF I were Hillary it would look a lot better to me to stay in the nice cushy job of Senator from New York for a good many years to come. In my mind you would have to be stark raving mad to want to go through the process of campaigning for president. But again, so not that personality type.