Buffy: A Guide, but no water or food. So it leads me to the sacred place and then a week later it leads you to my bleached bones? Giles: Buffy, really. It takes more than a week to bleach bones.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


ChiKat - Dec 19, 2006 7:50:44 pm PST #7105 of 10007
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Buffistas in more Northerly climes are all snickering at our wussy California temperature-related whining right now.

Yes, yes we are. Where we=me and my cat.


§ ita § - Dec 19, 2006 7:54:48 pm PST #7106 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, you know, if the houses were actually warm people wouldn't be whining so. I don't care about the outside weather. Just the inside temperature.


Ailleann - Dec 19, 2006 8:03:19 pm PST #7107 of 10007
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

More Sexyback mockage. Hee!


ChiKat - Dec 19, 2006 8:29:39 pm PST #7108 of 10007
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

if the houses were actually warm people wouldn't be whining so

Do you have heat? Or is it not working? (Not mocking questions. Lots of people around here don't have A/C because it's not needed very often.)


§ ita § - Dec 19, 2006 8:46:49 pm PST #7109 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's more of an insulation thing, ChiKat. Just like architecture here gets away with pretending it won't rain, somehow the box that heats up like an oven on a sunny summer afternoon seems to now leak heat like a sieve.

It's really hard to get my apartment evenly warm.

Question about the housing bust. I look at it as the only way I might ever afford a house in LA. So I'm behind it, in general. I know that some of the collateral effects are job losses in arenas dependent on mortgaging, etc, but overall, the bust is bad for America? And the boom was good?


Cass - Dec 19, 2006 8:47:21 pm PST #7110 of 10007
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

No place I lived in SoCal was really prepared for any kind of chill in the air.

Now? It's really damn cold outside here but really quite easy to keep comfy inside. I am all about well-built and actually insulated housing that gives me actual climate control.

Of course summer proved that plans for the winter don't translate to dealing with heat outside as it was hotter than Satan's nape when we went all heatwave.

It's more of an insulation thing, ChiKat. Just like architecture here gets away with pretending it won't rain, somehow the box that heats up like an oven on a sunny summer afternoon seems to leak heat like a sieve.
Or what ita said in our insulation crosspost.


Cashmere - Dec 20, 2006 12:06:53 am PST #7111 of 10007
Now tagless for your comfort.

msbelle, those mac things are so normal, it's reassuring! As a mom with a very non-verbal toddler, I feel your pain in the lack of communication skills. It's trying and frustrating but just this morning I had Owen asking for cookies for breakfast and the exchange went like this:

Owen: TOOOOOKIE!
Me: No. Cookies aren't for breakfast. Want some yogurt or a banana?
Owen: TOOOOOKIE!
Me: No. Yogurt or banana.
Owen: TOOOOOOKIE!
Me: Yogurt or banana.
Owen: Tookie?
Me: Yogurt or banana.
Owen: tookie?
Me: Yogurt or banana.
Owen: BANANA!

He's getting into the Christmas spirit. He can say "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Holidays"-but don't tell Bill O'Reilly.

So I'm behind it, in general. I know that some of the collateral effects are job losses in arenas dependent on mortgaging, etc, but overall, the bust is bad for America? And the boom was good?

I'd venture to say that this latest boom wasn't so good for America. It led to the proliferation of "exoctic" mortgages that put a lot of people into homes they couldn't really afford, leading to even more overblown home values. When the chips fall (and with them, home values) the result is going to be a higher than ever rate of mortgage defaults and foreclosures. Lots of overvalued homes and families already stretched beyond their means tapped into equity that may very well disappear, leaving them more strapped than before. More foreclosures are going to mean empty homes sitting there lowering the land values of the homes around them, hurting their neighbor's, too. It's an ugly cycle.

In general the booms are good because of the new home building--the construction business hires a lot of people in low, middle and high pay scales which gets more money where it needs to be in the economy, rather than just mortgage brokers and realtors. It also means more people are borrowing money, which means banks are making money, municipalities are making money on property taxes on land that was empty before, etc.


Kat - Dec 20, 2006 2:53:28 am PST #7112 of 10007
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

oof. morning seems to come too soon. What's up with that?

3 more work days. Well, 2 and a half. I am ill prepared.


Jesse - Dec 20, 2006 3:12:41 am PST #7113 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ita, OKGO is a band. I think they're from Chicago? They're fun.

The grocery store and drug store have tons of gift cards for other places! Home Depot, iTunes, Macy's, local food chains, JC Penney, Visa and Mastercard check cards that are like cash!

I am really pretty sure we don't have that here. At least not in the grocery and drug stores I go to. That would be awesome.

The winter here was being so mild! And then Friday or Saturday (I'm beginning to lose my place in the calendar) everything started to plummet.

Here too. Except it only plummeted yesterday. And even then, I think it's still "warm" for the time of year. I like it, because (a) the heat's been on in my apartment even when it was 60 outside, and (b) I don't have a wardrobe for 60! It was very difficult getting dressed when I wanted to wear a sweater, but it was clearly inappropriate.


Kat - Dec 20, 2006 3:19:06 am PST #7114 of 10007
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Except it only plummeted yesterday

see. We are the heat misers. When we leave, it gets cold. Though, honestly, I am thinking the snow storms in Santa Fe (highs of 31) will beat my heat miserly powers.