I walk. I talk. I shop, I sneeze. I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back. There's trees in the desert since you moved out. And I don't sleep on a bed of bones.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 14, 2006 6:45:13 am PST #6161 of 10007
What is even happening?

I vote "safe to eat". Megan Walker has a whole rant on how silly Americans are about refrigeration (compared to the French) and I have a couple of chef friends who, while following all the rules professionally, snort derisively at the notion that food will regularly go bad without that being noticable.

The thing is, people get used to certain bacteria through exposure. My great aunt would leave a (covered) cooked turkey (or whatever) on her pantry counter for a few days, and eat it, and not get sick. But her gut was used to those bacteria.

I think of all foods, ham is the one I'd take the biggest chance with, because it's so processed to begin with, but a ham steak is relatively affordable, and easy to cook (actually, you just heat it up) again, so it doesn't seem worth the risk (to me, YMMV).


sarameg - Dec 14, 2006 6:45:25 am PST #6162 of 10007

I can't believe it is still so foggy outside. The thing is, there was no fog out where I live. It's bright and sunshiney not 5 miles away. Sigh.


Typo Boy - Dec 14, 2006 6:45:59 am PST #6163 of 10007
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

On silly refrigeration rules. The brand of raisins I buy starting putting a notice "refrigerate after opening". Dude: I'm not going to refrigerate raisins. They were invented as a means of preserving grapes, and if you refrigerate them they go all hard and dry . This also applies to other dried fruit with the same warning.


tommyrot - Dec 14, 2006 6:46:55 am PST #6164 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The worst Christmas specials and TV movies ever

Of course, 'Santa Claus Conquers the Martians' and 'The Star Wars Holiday Special' are in there....

Shales called 1995's Kathie Lee: Home for Christmas, "a sickeningly saccharine vanity production that should really have been titled O Come, Let Us Adore Me." Her 1998 outing, Kathie Lee Gifford: Christmas Every Day, led him to ask: "What's the difference between the 24-hour flu and a Kathie Lee Gifford Christmas special? Twenty-three hours."


tommyrot - Dec 14, 2006 6:48:09 am PST #6165 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, and B-day happies for Typo Boy!


Ailleann - Dec 14, 2006 6:51:32 am PST #6166 of 10007
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I'm happy to announce that I have both Babes in Toyland and Christmas in Pac-Land on original VHS. And they're both awesome!

C-I-N-C-I-N-N-A-T-I Cincinnati!


Tom Scola - Dec 14, 2006 6:51:43 am PST #6167 of 10007
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The worst Christmas specials and TV movies ever

The Year Without a Santa Claus remake that was on NBC Monday night deserves to be on that list.


Ginger - Dec 14, 2006 6:54:26 am PST #6168 of 10007
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

One reason why she could leave a turkey out and not get sick is that she knew how to cook a turkey. The problem is, if you don't cook the turkey long enough, the salmonella near the bone isn't killed, and you've made an extra-special dinner for the salmonella with all that warm meat. Also, in the old days before factory farms, we hadn't managed to infect almost all poultry with salmonella.

I'd nuke the meal and eat it, myself.


Aims - Dec 14, 2006 6:55:22 am PST #6169 of 10007
Shit's all sorts of different now.

C-I-N-C-I-N-N-A-T-I Cincinnati!

The best town in O-H-I-O Ohio, they say!
At first they called it "Cincy" but the Cincy was so natty,
They called it Cincinnati, so they say!

That song is the the only was I ever remember how to spell Cincinnati.


Ailleann - Dec 14, 2006 6:59:27 am PST #6170 of 10007
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

::loves on Aimee::