I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2006 12:59:12 pm PST #5030 of 10007
What is even happening?

The AU blog links to an earlier story from a local paper called "The Hook." The Hook [link] article has a quote from the Liberty Council (from when the school first made the decision to allow religious flyers).

"I think it would be unconstitutional to prohibit political material," says Liberty Counsel's Staver, who isn't worried about schools being inundated. "They're not required to accept everything," he says, citing exemptions for libelous, obscene or pornographic material. Nor does he object if Muslim or Jewish groups want to distribute information about their events in schools. "The First Amendment is not just for the Liberty Counsel," he says. "You can't just pick and choose."

Even nonprofits that often oppose Liberty Counsel-- for example, Planned Parenthood-- should be allowed to use the schools to get their messages out, Staver says. "You can't transport kids to an abortion clinic," he stipulates, "but you can send material home and let parents make a decision."

And if the Aryan Nation is having a family event? "You can always think of a hard example," concedes Staver. "I haven't seen the Aryan Nation come up with outreach to kids with picnics or lessons."

It doesn't read like they didn't imagine other religious groups would be sending home stuff because of their decision.

Their home page is one giant ode to how liberals and gays are destroying America

You're braver than I am, to look. I try to stay away from anything Falwellesque, or I end up sinning.


Aims - Dec 07, 2006 1:02:35 pm PST #5031 of 10007
Shit's all sorts of different now.

You just sinned right there.


tommyrot - Dec 07, 2006 1:03:31 pm PST #5032 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm sinning right now AIFG!


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2006 1:10:03 pm PST #5033 of 10007
What is even happening?

You just sinned right there.

Hey, it's not a sin to admit you're a sinner, as someone with your vast experience should have realized, by now.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2006 1:10:14 pm PST #5034 of 10007
What is even happening?

Now, I've sinned.


Aims - Dec 07, 2006 1:11:26 pm PST #5035 of 10007
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Hey, it's not a sin to admit you're a sinner, as someone with your vast experience should have realized, by now.

What? Nooo! I'm no sinner!


P.M. Marc - Dec 07, 2006 1:13:50 pm PST #5036 of 10007
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Unrelated to sin, this makes me think of ita: [link]


Cass - Dec 07, 2006 1:17:19 pm PST #5037 of 10007
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Hey, it's not a sin to admit you're a sinner
No vicious circle of sin then?


brenda m - Dec 07, 2006 1:17:20 pm PST #5038 of 10007
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Cindy, I think the article was trying to point back at the Liberty hoohahs in a look-what-you-did mocking way, but I agree that it doesn't sound (from that info anyway), like there's anyone actually involved who are raising a ruckus but a few nutjobs.

ION, in case you were concerned that the report on Iraq was going to keep our fear-soul-less leader up nights, not to worry:

[link]


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2006 1:17:37 pm PST #5039 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, that's freaking gorgeous Plei. I'd sin a little to get it.