No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Spike's Bitches 33: Weeping, crawling, blaming everybody else  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Cashmere - Dec 16, 2006 3:04:35 pm PST #6004 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

What Aimee said, JZ. I read those posts and nod like a bobble-head. It's normal and you need support. It's ok to vent that stuff because if you don't vent, you'll feel isolated and crazy. When you're not. Everyone feels that way.


Cashmere - Dec 16, 2006 3:05:48 pm PST #6005 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

I wish I was closer so I could trade your screamer for the one of mine who keeps stuffing interesting things into the toilet to see what'll happen.


JZ - Dec 16, 2006 3:08:25 pm PST #6006 of 10004
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I mean, obviously we're here, but bodily present help is a big help

It would be, but the only person I can think of is working weekends right now. If I'd had the good sense to hit my limit a couple of hours earlier, I might have pinged a localista or three, but at 5:00 on a Saturday there's probably noone about (speaking of which, I can't remember the last time Emily posted -- has middle school succeeded in eating her from her bottom?)

It does kinda help just being here with y'all, actually.


libkitty - Dec 16, 2006 3:08:54 pm PST #6007 of 10004
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Mememe-est post in the history of ever:

Not. even. close.

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{JZ}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}


vw bug - Dec 16, 2006 3:09:47 pm PST #6008 of 10004
Mostly lurking...

(speaking of which, I can't remember the last time Emily posted -- has middle school succeeded in eating her from her bottom?)

I just talked to her a little while ago, actually. She's on break and leaving for vacation tomorrow morning.

More {{{{JZ}}}}


libkitty - Dec 16, 2006 3:10:54 pm PST #6009 of 10004
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I can't remember the last time Emily posted

Just yesterday I was going through my bookmarks and saw an Emily post from long ago, and wondered the same thing.

xposty, of course.


JZ - Dec 16, 2006 3:11:25 pm PST #6010 of 10004
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Aw, Lee, thanks... tomorrow may or may not be all booked up. I'll know in a few minutes.

Now I'm crying at everyone's kindness, which is much better and more comforting than crying to try to drown out the baby screams.


Deena - Dec 16, 2006 3:13:51 pm PST #6011 of 10004
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

{{JZ}} You're normal. I don't know why we ever have more than one. It's not forgetting the pain of delivery, at least for me. It's forgetting the pain of infancy.

Even if the baby cries for the whole time you're gone, if you get the chance to hand her off and walk away for 20 minutes, you should take it. I'm sorry no one's available right now. If you can't stand it anymore, my pediatrician told me it's perfectly acceptable to put them in the bed and walk away, as long as you know they're fed, dry and warm.

eta: my slowness is directly attributable to my screaming meemies, and they don't even have the excuse of infancy.


JZ - Dec 16, 2006 3:16:33 pm PST #6012 of 10004
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Hec just came back home. Poor guy, he's about to have her handed off to him, and she'll make him pay as soon as she realizes I'm gone and I've taken The Tits with me.


flea - Dec 16, 2006 3:17:46 pm PST #6013 of 10004
information libertarian

It's especially acceptable to put them down and walk away if you feel like there is any possibility that you will throw them out the window. One of Betsy's had colic and I recall her being especially helpful during the very bad infant crying times, and she said something like the above.

Also unless you are very hard-core about not drinking I would suggest a half glass of wine.

ETA: the gap between my first post and this one was occupied by rocking a crying baby. Who went back to sleep, yay team!