I'm not sure how old he is, but I heard him use the word 'newfangled' one time, so he's gotta be pretty far gone.

Dawn ,'Beneath You'


Spike's Bitches 33: Weeping, crawling, blaming everybody else  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Aims - Nov 07, 2006 10:08:53 am PST #383 of 10004
Shit's all sorts of different now.

What? You're not obese. That's dumb.

According to BMI, I am.


sj - Nov 07, 2006 10:14:15 am PST #384 of 10004
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

NOT being able to smoke would keep me out of events and venues, too. If I chose my smoking over my enjoyment.

Because you can choose to go outside to smoke, but no one else around you at a restaurant can choose not to smoke your cigarette if you're smoking near them. I haven't noticed less people in restaurants since the law was passed.


Connie Neil - Nov 07, 2006 10:14:52 am PST #385 of 10004
brillig

According to BMI, I am.

According to the BMI, I'm a dead whale walking.

I thought this was Natter. Politics here, kid-talk in Natter.


Cashmere - Nov 07, 2006 10:17:59 am PST #386 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

According to BMI

Which I think we've established as a poor standard by bullshit consensus.

I'm not saying that those with asthma or those with a sensitivity to the smoke that causes them severe health problems should choose to go into smoke-filled events if it is bad for them, but why should I be banned if I do choose to smoke?

I agree that there should be some middle ground. But, unfortunately, the bigger part of the burden of this issue will fall on the smokers. Because a lot of respiratory ailment sufferers are unable to make this kind of decision for themselves. At least until we can control air or filter out the contaminants to the point where it won't harm others.

I understand your dilemma. I really do. I have a sister who cannot go 15 minutes without a cigarette. She doesn't ride anywhere in the car with me because I won't let her smoke. I know she's terribly addicted but if she can't survive a short car trip without a cigarette, I'm not the one that's going to suffer for it (or let it affect my kids).

DH took a "lifestyle" quiz at work. It was probably to narrow down higher insurance risks. His weight was flagged as an issue. We really try to work on that but it's difficult. We'll most likely end up paying higher premiums because of it eventually.

That said, we're not giving up cheeseburgers.


brenda m - Nov 07, 2006 10:19:54 am PST #387 of 10004
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

But, unfortunately, the bigger part of the burden of this issue will fall on the smokers.

And I think that's fair. But I don't think blanket bans had to be the answer.


Fred Pete - Nov 07, 2006 10:20:03 am PST #388 of 10004
Ann, that's a ferret.

That said, we're not giving up cheeseburgers.

I've had some success with the "portion control" theory. As in, getting a single cheeseburger instead of a double.

I'm not skinny, but I think I'm a little less overweight.


Cashmere - Nov 07, 2006 10:22:12 am PST #389 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.

I've had some success with the "portion control" theory. As in, getting a single cheeseburger instead of a double.

I think the biggest problem is that DH is fond of the "black & blue" burger. Black angus, blue cheese. With bacon.

Now I'm hungry.


beth b - Nov 07, 2006 10:22:16 am PST #390 of 10004
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Taxing something because it is a health burden seems wrong. There are places to pay for it- such as insurance costs. But it is hard to put in a box A causes B. let's take my favorite disease. Diabetes. If you are not geneticly inclined, you will only get it if your pancreas is destroyed or damaged. So obese does not = diabetes. Then there is me - my weigh crept up. I decided to do something about it. Lost 30 lbs. Slowly , carfully, over a year in time. 6 months after hitting my low weight -that's when diabetes showed up. Loseing weight, not a promise of good health.

Possibly rewards for good health are better. Ihave a friend who lost weight because of a life insurance thign - it was the final motivation fo r her. She stuck to it, did really well and is proud of herself


Aims - Nov 07, 2006 10:27:11 am PST #391 of 10004
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Because you can choose to go outside to smoke, but no one else around you at a restaurant can choose not to smoke your cigarette if you're smoking near them. I haven't noticed less people in restaurants since the law was passed.

In restaurants and bars, I don't have a problem with not being able to smoke. I can go outside. It's not abig deal to me. At least outside I can hang with smokers. Automatic comrades!

My main problem is the law. My smoking is not a healthful thing to do, but there are also other unhealthy things that so many people do, that it gets tiring being the only group that is taxed and villified as much as smokers are.


beth b - Nov 07, 2006 10:27:28 am PST #392 of 10004
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

3 things help me.

1) portion control - which I do pretty well with most of the time

2) recognizing my own eating habits. - as in I like to eat all the time - so I eat a resonable breakfast and dinner,but I snack a lot from 10 - 4

3) rare. some foods just have to be rare. as in not often. And that's the hardest one.